Arsenal v Swansea; Premier League Match Preview

“We will come back. Now we have six games, four at home, and if we do well in this block I think we have a chance to come back. But of course it is vital for us to do well in these games.”
So spoke Arsene Wenger ahead of this weekend’s tie against Swansea.
His focus on the home portion of these 6 matches is well founded. Arsenal have been less than stellar at home this season only winning 3 from their last 9 league matches at the Emirates (3W 4D 2L). That’s not exactly good form for a team that is supposed to be contending for the title – as we are led to believe.
But he’s right. With four games of the next 6 in the league at the Emirates the Gunners could feasibly get themselves right back into the middle of it. That is only, if they stop being so bloody wasteful.
Here’s the thing, Manchester United and Arsenal have the same amount of losses. What United have managed to do is be more efficient with their chances while Arsenal have been wasteful and the makers of their own demise.
Arsenal aren’t lacking opportunity. They are getting enough of the ball and establishing enough pressure to win the games they’ve drawn in. They either lack any really sense of urgency to get back into a match either when they go down or are drawn equal or they lack any creativity when their opponent sets in to stifle their play. This lack of creativity or ideas forces Arsenal to take wasteful chances that do very little to challenge the keeper offer any real hope that they can get back into the game.
Arsenal have also seemingly moved away from their attempt at tiki-taka style football. They’ve been doing it gradually since Cesc left but the real standout visual to me against Everton was the fact that if we weren’t lumping the ball forward we were trying for long key passes. Except there was one problem – the long key passes weren’t really making it to their intended target.
The long-ball and long passing is hurting Arsenal. But with the exception of Cazorla or Wilshere there doesn’t strike me as many other players that are comfortable or suited for a true tiki-taka style of play. Some try. Some fail. (cough cough Mr. Ramsey).
Now we were never going to be Barcelona in that aspect. But the way we played with fluidity and panache even in this drought of almost 8 years, was at least a badge of honour we could hold on to. It was also a reason why there always seemed to be a modicum of hope that the outcome of any game could be turned in our favor because of that one little moment of pure genius.
The fact is that one little moment of pure genius hasn’t really come with any level of consistency. Early on in the season there flashes. However, as we’ve got into this long rut, we seem more intent to be impatient then patient. We seem to force the issue. And that simply won’t do against teams that are getting better and wiser to how to play Arsenal.
Swansea are a good test. They’ve been a much improved team with Michael Laudrup as their manager. He’s taken the foundation established by Martinez, furthered by Rodgers and added a directness to it and it has gotten the desired results. Swansea have only lost 1 in their last 9 and are unbeaten in their last 5.
They are the only other team besides Manchester United who have yet to lose from a winning position this season. In other words this is not a team that is going to be an easy club.
We were told to start gauging Arsenal when we were 10-15 games in. Well we are here at 14 games and we are mid-table. Now we’re being asked to gauge us on the next 6 games. I must be a masochist because I always remain bullish about this club. And I’ll go the next 6 games. I’ll probably go all the way through May before I pass any kind of verdict. Like everyone else, I am frustrated because I did see promise in this team and it has been unrealized. I am hoping the team, the manager, and supporters can use this match as a start to some sort of redemptive run.
How the match should play out.
Both teams want the ball and the team that the ball longest and does something with it effectively, will win the match. As good as Laudrup’s charges have been he is still struggling to find the right combination up top. Who partners Michu and where does Michu play have affected their ability to score at times. Arsenal can only hope that they get it wrong. Arsenal need to get back to finding a way to unlock teams that press against them. It is the biggest reason they’ve digressed in their style of play. They need to get back to what they do best, hold the ball, unlock defenses and when pressured use their speed to hit the opponents on the counter. Should Arsenal come out flat, play with hesitancy they will feed into a good a Swansea team. They need to get back to their foundation of play in this match and come out with some urgency. How does it play out? Your guess is as good as mine. Form is worrying and I think we are fragile. I can see this easily being a 1-1 draw (I hope I am wrong on the positive side for Arsenal)
Players to Watch:
Arsenal. Thomas Vermaelen. The Arsenal captain turned in a solid, controlled performance on Wednesday. His first of the season. He needs to build on that and be the leader the club needs him to be now.
SCFC: Michu. The former Rayo Vallecano forward has been a revelation this season and already has 8 goals this season.
Projected Lineups:
njuries and Suspensions:
Arsenal: Diaby (thigh), Fabianski (shoulder), Santos (abdomen), Koscileny (thigh), Sagna (foot – late fitness test)
SCFC: Graham (illess), Vorm (groin, pelvis), Bartley (thigh), Taylor (ankle)
Leading Scorers:
Arsenal: Cazorla 4, Walcott 4, Giroud 4, Podolski 4
SCFC: Michu 8
Assist Leaders
Arsenal: Walcott 4
SCFC: De Guzman 3, Routledge 3
Goals For:
Arsenal (home): 2.7
SCFC (away): 1.3
Goals Against:
Arsenal (home): 1.3
SCFC: (away): 1.2
Last Meeting (EPL):
Arsenal: 1
SCFC: 0
Last Five:
Arsenal: DDWDL
SCFC: WDWDD
Goal Difference:
Arsenal: 10
SCFC: 4
Match Official:
Referee: Mark Clattenburg (Matches 7, R4 Y30)
Broadcast Information:
US: Foxsoccer.tv 10:00AM EST
UK: ??????? BST
YAMA Prediction:
Arsenal: 1
SCFC: 1
The Final Word
I’ve stayed away from calendar-gate the fact that the press and Arsenal fans are resorting to a calendar to determine who might and might not be here the next season is really borderline crazy – in a mental way.
So what Walcott AND Sagna were not in one of the various calendars that Arsenal put out. Well, yes, they are both involved in contract negotiations. And if something does happen then it’s plain to see that Arsenal marketing don’t want to end up with egg on their face like they did this year.
Question do you know who is the December 2012 calendar-boy? Better still do you know who adorned the 2012 Jr. Gunners magazine (or was it calendar – I can’t remember). If you answered with one of the recent Arsenal departures like say Robin Van Persie you’d be correct.
Arsenal were subject to additional press disdain and ridicule because of the inclusion of van Persie in those materials. Now they are being battered for not having Sagna and Walcott in the next calendar. Damned if they do. Damned if they don’t. Arsenal simply cannot win.
And as Arsenal fans we feed into that. A lot of us call the calendar story a non-story. But John Cross argues if it is such a non-story why was it the most read article on the Mirror web site in recent memory? Well, just because people read the story doesn’t mean its actually an issue John. No, people actually might just want to read what you said.
But the frenzy it has now caused is why John wrote a piece like this because it’s easy to get Arsenal fans agitated and engaged.
Arsenal are an easy target right now because of its fan base. We get upset, irritated or any maddening response by any negative mention of our team. That results in call-ins to radio programmes, eyeballs on articles on newspaper web sites, and hits on blogs. Anguish sells. It’s that simple.
I didn’t wade into the calendar issue or the Arsenal disprespecting supporters brouha (great write up on that here on Arseblog) because there are bigger concerns.
If I wanted to figure out who’s not going to be here next year I’ll just go to the local psychic.
Until next time – stay Goonerish!
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Someone gets it….
Arteta, Arsenal’s vice-captain, said the supporters were entitled to so vocally voice their frustrations. “We can’t keep asking them to be behind us if afterwards we don’t give them back what they deserve,” he said.
An eventful weekend for Arsenal FC.
The title has gone but we’re only 5 points away from a CL place. The issue however is our woeful form and the sheer number of clubs that are above and around us. This season, it really does look like we’re settling into a Liverpool-like mediocrity. And that’s chilling. Look at Liverpool, reigniting the furnace is not necessarily easy.
As a fan we tend to be like a cork bobbing in the sea – up and down with the latest results. But for those that can take a slightly longer-term view what is visible is the gentle decline. If a team fails to deliver and each season seems a harder struggle to qualify for 3rd or 4th then it’s not a blip is it? It’s a trend. The hiding by ManU last season was supposed to be a lowpoint, and certainly it was in terms of embarrassment, and yet this season has a new lowpoint – our worst start in terms of points.
What’s interesting, and I’ve said this many times, is to observe our decline and see how fans and media struggle and fight against the new reality. We’re seeing the first signs of real fan unrest, the march was very ‘Arsenal’, in keeping with our history. Quite dignified. And yet the fact there was a march, added to the frequent boo’s, even the away support dissent, all adds to the momentum of unrest that is a precursor to the eventual upheaval and change. Gazidis told the media, somewhat mischievously, “the fans will decide when there is a change of manager” – and in an earthy way he’s right.
The final thread, Wenger’s security blanket, is CL qualification. If Arsenal fail to achieve a CL spot at the end of this season I can see the Board working with Wenger to ease him out and someone else in. The concern then becomes the capacity of the Board to identify a good successor. That worries me a bit to be honest. What is fascinating is the breaking news with PHW the longstanding chair of the Board. PHW may present as an aristocratic bumbling old man, and that perception is understandable, but he clearly knows how to manage a Board. His recent health issues may well force him to stand down from the Board and that really does create a vaccum. No PHW, no Dein, who is the powerbroker at Board level? Will Kroenke’s influence become dominant? It might.
My worry is that there is almost no evidence that Kroenke is an owner of sporting winners. And so we might see an underwhelming candidate take over from Wenger. Not because we can’t attract a top manager, but because Kroenke cares about Arsenal as a piece in his business model not Arsenal as a footballing power. The worstcase would be Wenger moves up and a puppet (ala Bould) is inserted. It could happen.
I’m at risk of writing myself into a hole here, so let’s paint a happier succession scenario. This is what I outligned in the last few days, so I won’t rehash the rationale. But a scenario where Guardiola takes the reigns and ‘does a Wenger’ on this current squad is very possible. Let’s remember Wenger is the highest paid manager in England (incredible as that is), so the Board/Kroenke are not afraid to pay their manager high. Guardiola would not be a ‘high risk’ to them in awarding him a high salary.
The bigger jump the Board/Kroenke have to make is in trusting a new manager to spend larger sums that unbalance the P&L for 1 or 2 seasons. The fact Wenger has ‘turned a profit’ over the last 7 years has come at the expense of the squad quality – that’s undeniable. It’s like a company failing to reinvest in its machinery and putting off the inevitable – eventually the competition will overtake you. The Board/Kroenke have to accept that 1 or 2 years of outlay are necessary for ANY manager if this current squad is to become competitive (or to avoid the Liverpool scenario). A Guardiola or a Hiddink, despite being very different types of manager, could come in and sell off the deadwood, re-energise the culture, and identify and restock with a mix of uber quality and functionery players, and win something inside in year 2. Wenger cannot do this. If you still hold on to the hope he can at a conscious level you’re a sad sad emotional case – and you should stay away from any role that calls for clear headedness.
2 add on items.
PHW suffered a heart attack… is said to be recovering, but how long will he be on the board? who knows… is that good or bad? who knows.
Also, while the march was very civil… I have friends who were at the match who said there was FIGHTING in the stands, post match, between ARSENAL SUPPORTERS. There was some negative chanting going on, and that AKBers or “supporters” who didn’t like the chants, got into some fisticuffs…
trying times indeed at the Arsenal FC.
As long as the “fans” keep showing up, buying merchandise (how’s the sales this holiday season?)… and buying concessions at the matches, not enough will change.
The SUPPORTERS have the ability to FORCE the club to do something… BIG …
It appears that has started to happen, as we are mid-table, 15 games into the season, with only 5 wins, and our worst start EVER under Wenger (and since 1994)…
We don’t play with any passion.
We don’t play with any style.
Sorry. But I think BIG CHANGE is near… either during or after the season.
This won’t be accepted by the masses.
So Wenger goes let’s say at end of season – then what? Board without any vision or leadership still reamins and its more than likely Wenger will join the board. So then what? Nothing. As a matter of fact probably worse. Why, because there is noone at the club who has the gumption, vision or brass balls to actually think outside the box for the new manager.
No, all the current board would do is bring in someone they can manage without the clout of Wenger. In other words the likelihood of something more disasterous happening exponentiall grows if Wenger is removed and nothing changes at the top.
Without change at the board level – replacing the manager is only a band-aid.
DAG.
stop holding onto this notion that its better to not do anything drastic, because it might be worse…
what kind of loser thinking is that? oh, right… its Arsene / Arsenal thinking…!!
if we have to go lower… if it has to get worse, before it gets better … so be it.
if the management have to be FORCED to change, then lets do the forcing.
F*CK Wenger. He deserves to be out on his ass.
Enough is enough.
(Apologies, this is a little long, even by my own standards….Trying times, comfort in words, etc….)
Exceptional writing Kiwi and you lay it out all too clearly. The house of cards is on a foundation of one man. He built it this way and if you pull him from the mix it all topples and the reconstruction will be from the ground up. I (completely) agree that there is opportunity there for somebody young and (relatively) unburnt from flying too close to the sun to swoop in and use the powerful financial base of the club to grab us up at the bootstraps and make this moment our nadir. Guardiola is one, Klopp is the other in my mind (and both could bring their very own players with them). Interesting about the different ownership structure, big money and criticism of English football with German champ Dortmund hosting (already eliminated) Man City and sure to cement 1st place in this seasons’ group of death…. Personally I wouldn’t mind if Roberto Martinez came in. My impression is that there is A LOT of undervalued Spanish talent who can handle the weather. Michu is an example which comes quickly to mind….
Continuing with the tortured metaphors…Before we bury him (or kick him upstairs, which I also fear is quite likely….see below for a my own twist on this scenario), a little praise for Arsene, or at least his vision, which has been alluring to so many for so long, seems worthy of the indulgence….
Maybe it’s because I’m down here in the land of Don Quioxte, but for me, AW seems both a Pragmatist AND (or even more-so) a Romantic. Responding to relentless forces with a contrarian approach, our “professor” of economics is doing the not-so-novel thing of managing a business responsibly. It only appears radical given that football is more deeply than ever in an age of every man for himself. Like you, I believe this is all fine for a COO (or CEO) but a football manager must choose his players and then get them to produce on the pitch. This is where AW has failed–too much romance (hope) for certain types then too much rigidity and maybe egoism when they don’t (or do) pan out.
For me, the counterpoint is at Man U. with parallels that are striking but run in almost opposite directions. Up there, where they’re a decade ahead (with money, witness the big stadium and its diluted atmosphere), American owners come in and heap debt onto the club to shore up their portfolio. A “legendary” manager spends and spends to maintain results and they are on there on the pitch. The quality may be down, but by keeping his motley crew of rather dunderheaded players chugging along, while throwing money at a few of them (notably Rooney and now RVP), he is getting the job done. Financially, SAF is perhaps kicking the ball down the road, but who cares? The fans are happy, the brand is growing, etc., etc. It won’t be easy to follow in those footsteps when he finally steps down….
The contrarian approach with Arsene as company man (and, more distressing THE company) is in stark relief. “Come with me,” he’s told his collective group of misfits down the years (and I include the players, the rich-beyond-their-dreams board, and the new breed of sometimes well-heeled, highly literate supporters, amongst whom I am sometimes tempted to include myself. We enjoy the Arsenal brand and an occasional night in (now upscale) Islington….) The deal for the players is “I’ll pay you good money” (or take it from you, for the fans….), allow you to “express yourself,” and we will do it all correctly. I’m in charge, of course, so if you think you’re bigger than the project (AKA me), you can go fuck yourself.
For supporters it leads to the frustration embodied in the march or our local screamer, Mr. 133. For players who wish to be bigger than the man himself, it’s a ticket down the road. (Like I said recently, I’m not at all sure AW can fathom being less than the highest paid employee at the club, which surely means a certain lower quality of player is our lot.)
Football SHOULD be about romance, and it is very sweet to stay true to players through horrifying and lengthy injuries (Diaby, Ramsey, Wilshere, Rosicky, Gibbs, AND RVP, etc) or just to believe that goofballs can find perspective, work a little harder, and realize their talents (Eboue, Santos, Kolo Toure, Adebayor, Gervinho, Arshavin, etc.). Some come a little bit good and get talked into cashing in (Clichy, Nasri, Theo, RVP) while others with even more prodigious talents just feel the clock ticking and cannot see the project out (Fabregas and RVP again). Now we’ve got a new group of misfits. Tiny Santi, Giant Giroud, Aged Arteta. Add in other must-play guys like TV5, LK6, PM4, LP9 and BS3, and it’s a fun group of veterans who seem to want to repay the managers faith in picking them. Marry some promising youngsters (some for whom we overpaid) to a few more likewise goofy, cheaper prospects—Jenks and Sneezy come to mind—and there’s a bit of promise. Unfortunately, they ALL have to get over their injuries, come good and gel as a unit, right away, and all the time, or at least without too many hiccups, whilst simultaneously playing more games than the (other, selling) teams lurking below us. If those clubs can avoid relegation, getting by for a season or two, AND their young managers can cash in on THEIR lottery tickets (see for example Andy Carroll….), THEY can buy numerous good bodies (and minds) to have a go at low-hanging old bullies like the “old” big 4. The names of “small” clubs who in just 15 rounds have beaten United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal is simply too big to list. Silly money IS trickling down. It won’t last, and things must change, but that’s another discussion….
Our current worries are in the mirror…. I actually think (ever the optimist…) that the players AND the fans will rally around AW, and we’ll get up for 4th or even 3rd, while the two Manchester clubs stumble as badly a year ago in claiming the domestic cups (and maybe a CL semi or final in the case of United). If we hold our noses and send a league cup squad to Greece (please, please take Martinez not Don Vito, who still must have nightmares about kicking at balls he might’ve grabbed….), it becomes a “learning experience.” And if then the regulars can get up on faltering West Brom, we’ll be right back on the heels of Spurs and Chelsea, who most certainly have issues of their own. Bow out against Swansea (surely to be favored over our kids) in the FA cup in January and then Barca or Dortmund (or another group winner) in the CL in February, and then we just focus on the run in (and the ever looming “future”)…. Regardless, it’s Drama City, Baby, with each match either a lifeline or a noose. Navigate these dark days of December and January gets downright Kid-in-a-Candy-Store, maybe with a big headed Nutcracker (Thierry Henry) thrown in for further romance and reminiscing…. Or, like kiwi suggests, and I shudder to think about, it could get a lot worse….
So, for me, at my best moments (when I’m in “observation mode”), it’s all (kind of) OK. Arsene is at the heart of what the club means to me so I’d like to see him move on with at least a shred of dignity, and I agree that there is a chance that we won’t necessarily have to go through the pain of (a series of) lesser managers taking us even lower. In fact, my optimism would even include Arsene as new COO (or board chairman) with David Dein by his side bringing in Usmanov and his promises of money or at least a bit of pressure on Kroenke to get just a hair looser with his. It would be scary for those who see the emperor as completely naked, but I think his commitment to the club will probably need to be honored in one way or another, esp. if he can, once again, pull the rabbit out of the hat (avoid CL relegation). The natives, however, are too restless, the pressure is too great, and it’s too much for one human being, no matter the size of his ego. This MUST be his final season….To rework Kiwi’s greatest metaphor, Moses did NOT get to the promised land….(but Joshua did)…..
I could be wrong, but like many, I feel we’ve arrived at a moment when it’s all about mitigating the downside of the hubris and the depth of the fall. I like the man and his vision but the forces in play are too strong for his hopeful (sentimental), sometimes decisive (often rigidly so), but often misguided (half-baked?) ideas. For me (again) it is fascinating to watch and I don’t fault myself (nor others) for “wanting” it to all work out or having a soft side for Arsene. Life itself is a losing game (or at least you’re buried alone and with nothing except maybe a decent suit, unless you decide to go all King Tut….), so why shouldn’t it at least be lived with a measure of personality?….
We’ve played 15 games in the league… we have 5 wins.
FIVE.
five?
yeah. anyone that wants to tell me things are OK at the club, not to worry, should seriously
consider some mental health help.
So Arsenal draws Swansea for the FA Cup. I’m looking forward to seeing some beautiful football. Good forward movement. Crisp passing. Great finishing. Shame Arsenal’s also playing.
“it won’t ruin my day if we lose or draw… nor will it make my day if we win”
Spot on Stag.
In fact, since the Fulham fiasco I’ve been messing around with mates that I’ve officially resigned as an Arsenal fan to join Swansea. At least they play attractive football, and have no illusions of being trophy challengers.
I didn’t celebrate their goals today like I used to do Arsenal goals back in the day, but it didn’t matter to me one bit that Arsenal lost. Meh, what’s the point anyway.
Some might say that most clubs don’t really have a hope of winning a trophy, but the difference is that they try. They genuinely try and improve their squads every season to be better than last. We are actively the opposite.
Pathetic
Pictures and tweets related to the BSM. Some interesting stuff.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/pictures-tweets-arsenal-fans-in-the-the-black-scarf-movement-march-against-the-running-of-their-club/
anyone know how the Black Scarf March went?
Couldn’t really care about the game. Lost 2-0 at home to Swansea…
yeah. whatever.
I am sure the supporters booed them off the pitch, and Wenger’s press conference will be a tape of previous ones, from previous years… he’ll belittle the fans, say he knows better than everyone else, don’t question him, so what if he had a hot Giroud not starting…
what do you know, you fools?
Arsenal FC simply does not matter any longer. Irrelevant.
Just want to see half empty Emirates.
I don’t know if it’s sad, but, I’m not really shocked that we lost today – not even upset. I am dead inside.
NUMB is the word of the day.
So…anyone see any good movies lately? Ironically, we’re kind of interested in Silver Linings Playbook.
7 psychopaths was decent in a sort of meta, post-Tarentino way.
I’m a complete ignoramus when it comes to movies.
If I had the choice of watching some edgy, complex new movie or Planes, Trains, and Automobiles I would probably choose the latter. Really am stuck in the eighties and nineties in that regard.
Half time and pretty sorry. Giroud rested and some good crosses to Gerv and Santi are more than wasted….(the funny one being gerv’s “shot” that ended up in the corner arc…..) And, of course, the best chances have fallen to Swansea…..
Podolski too selfish at times, and (like Theo) failing to control some decent balls into the box….Possession stats just about 50/50….Hmmm…..
I guess the GDC is a thing of the past….
Looks like it’s not on here, after all. Eh. There was a time that would be disappointing. Now I’m kinda happy I’ve got the 90 minutes back.
Ah, it’s on FSC +. (No longer a subscriber.)
Not that it matters anymore. But the backroom guys did attempt one audacious swoop which unfortunately didn’t materialize.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4675114/Pepe-Reina-could-be-sold-to-Arsenal.html
Here is the Facebook statement from “The Movement”… for me it says a LOT. I really wish I could be there, and be part of this:
Where Has Our Arsenal Gone?
Ladies and gentleman, the talking is over, tomorrow is action, hope to see everyone on Blackstock road (Cannons/Gunners bars) for 1.30pm, this will be a historic day, a day that we stand up and be counted, a day we show the board that we aint a cash cow they can milk just to make a profit, a day when we show we don’t believe the spin, we aint stupid and a day we show what the ground could be like if more like us had a safe standing area we could stand and sing in together. Let’s give the board hell outside then team full support inside.
Those with flags please bring them along and there will be a collection for AJ who sadly passed away recently.
See you all there.
To be honest… I really care more about the Black Scarf Movement’s march, than I do about the game with Swansea.
I am more interested to see how well attended this march is… it is far more important, in my opinion, to the future of the club, than a late November match against Swansea.
We are NOT playing to win the league… that’s fact… its well established that the club don’t care about winning.
The style we play is mediocre… there is no flare… no style…
its gone.
We aren’t fun to watch any more, we have sold all the star players…
and the results and effort are not that great.
I’ll watch it if its on TV, but it won’t ruin my day if we lose or draw… nor will it make my day if we win.
I think we could actually drop points to Swansea.
1-1.
Leaning towards a 1-1 myself. Koz, Sagna and Santos out. If Gibbs get injured? Arteta and Cazorla knackered. Our MF could be overrun. Could even lose this one.