Cesc Fabregas – the Barcelona Side of the Story

ED NOTE: I reached out to the writers at totalBarca just before the end of the EPL season to see if they would interested in a summer series that tracked the Cesc Fabregas story from the other side’s perspective. The article you see here is the first in the series and comes courtesy of Mike Watton of totalBarca.
As I said, over the course of the summer we will track the story as it develops and until it is resolved one way or the other. So without any further fluff on my part – Cesc Fabregas – the Barcelona Side of the Story:
by Mike Watton of totalBarca
How do Barça fans feel about the modern day Star Wars saga that is Cesc Fabregas’ employment situation? It’s complicated. There’s a few different angles that it has to be considered from. There’s on-the-pitch issues, what he means to the club as a figure away from it, and less importantly, how nice it would be to not have to talk about it anymore if he would just get it over with and come. On the whole, there’s probably no standard perspective that Barça fans share. Which makes the topic all the more interesting.
This is probably obvious, but serves as a good starting point: midfield is not a place that Barcelona needs help with at the moment. Xavi and Iniesta have the creating duties on lock in that part of the pitch. Busquets, while probably more well-known to the general public for other reasons, has quietly improved a great deal in his position at the back, and that’s not really where Cesc belongs anyway. This means that Cesc would often find himself on the bench, like he did at the World Cup. Would he be OK with that? It might be impossible to know how he’d react until he’s in that situation for a whole season, and beyond. Occasionally, Iniesta has been moved into a forward position because of injuries, and he and Xavi both are bound to need time off themselves at some point. It would be nice to have Fabregas to fill in when that happens. But that’s not what you typically buy a player of Cesc’s quality (and price) for. At the same time though, Xavi will be turning 32 during the coming year. It remains to be seen how much longer he will be able to maintain his current level. Having Cesc on hand to take his place wouldn’t be terrible.
But there’s another side to that argument. It’s not as though Cesc is the only option on hand for that role. 20 year old youth academy product Thiago continues to make a solid case for being next in line whenever he gets a chance to show his skills with the first team. In fact, a very popular answer among cules when asked about buying Cesc is to say “We don’t need him, we already have Thiago.” No one sees Thiago as a better player today, but many believe he has the potential to get there, so why not have him do it with us? Buying Cesc would block his progress and possibly force him to move to another club. Maybe that’s irrational, as Cesc has already shown what he can do. But on the other hand, believing in the potential of younger players and getting excited about them is one of the great things about being a supporter. It’s not easy to give that up. This is especially true at Barça, where pride in the club’s youth academy is extraordinarily high. Many would prefer to stick with Thiago rather than buy back a player who elected to leave the club when he was 16.
But don’t take that to mean there isn’t a great deal of pride in Cesc being Catalan and a product of La Masia. This is without a doubt the biggest factor that has people hoping to see him in the blaugrana shirt. To fully grasp it, you have to understand the regionalism in Catalonia. This isn’t a political lecture, so I won’t go too deep into it. But when there’s a Catalan player who is making a name for himself as one of the world’s finest, fans will have an extremely difficult time accepting him doing so for another club. It’s a completely different story from seeing Fernando Torres having success in England. The Catalan mindset is an entirely different worldview than the Spanish perspective. They have their own language, their own traditions, and many Catalans feel persecuted by Spain, and that Catalonia should be its own state. Out of that comes the “one of us” mindset. Being Catalan is a special thing, Catalans stick together, and FC Barcelona is an absolutely massive part of that. It doesn’t matter that Xavi and Iniesta are already in his position. Cesc is a great Catalan player, and great Catalan players should be playing for Barça. A lot of foreign supporters of the club don’t give this much thought, but make no mistake, it’s what’s driving the movement to bring Cesc back to Barça.
Of course, no one likes to talk about money unless it’s someone else’s money problems. But it certainly comes into play here. Sandro Rossell, the club’s president for about a year now, has made fiscal responsibility the centerpiece of his reign. Some would say to the detriment of his reign, but that’s another story. The main thing to understand is that Barça won’t be breaking any transfer records this summer. Arsenal, understandably, won’t be giving Cesc away for cheap. Is it really a good idea to spend most of the relatively small transfer budget on a player who will often find himself among the substitutes? Most Barça fans will admit that it would probably be smarter to spend elsewhere, or even hold onto the cash. Having a player of Cesc’s quality certainly would help the club, but again, he doesn’t fill a need. If we’re so hard up for money that we have to sell sponsorship for the club’s shirt, what are we doing spending a large sum of money on a player who plays the position that needs help the least?
So, there’s no easy way to go here. It’s probably fair to say that if one thinks with their head, it’s best to leave Cesc in London. But when thinking with the heart, he’s a difficult proposition to resist. Just ask a Barça player. And since no one is going to stop asking them until Cesc does return, since these stories will never stop until that happens, maybe it’s best to bring him back. It’s like a child who badly wants a toy having a little bit of money, and his parents trying to explain that the money would best be spent elsewhere. You know the kid will be buying that toy, and as for me, I’ve grown tired of resisting him.
Tomorrow: The Arsenal side.
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Don’t ever let the facts get in the way of a really good story :) It’s a known fact that Arsenal are the holiest, most beautiful club in the world and they can do no wrong.
Shawcross/Taylor leg-breaking tackles – Stoke and Birmingham are rubgy teams, they should be banned. Wilshere and Diaby do the same – Beautiful, beautiful Arsenal, the Kings of Fair Play.
Teams park the bus against Arsenal – anti-football.
Arsenal does the same at Camp Nou – brilliant strategy
Chelsea and Man City overpay for players – They’re inflating the market.
Wenger overprices his own players (Fabregas 50m, Bendtner 12m, etc…) – He’s not inflating the market. No, not Wenger.
Other teams spend money on players/wages – Financial doping (according to Wenger)
Arsenal have the third highest wage bill in England for years – financial responsibility, Wenger doing ‘miracles’ keeping the third higest-earning team in the league in the top-4!
Robert Pires diving in Arsenal’s invincible season – smart player/it’s up to the refs to decide
Players diving/teams getting favorable decisions vs Arsenal – cheats/the ref was bought.
Teams grind out results against Arsenal – “We lost but we are the most beautiful team, it’s unfair”.
Arsenal grind out results – It’s a sign of champions, they showed grit and determination.
And of course Arsenal ‘signing’ youngsters from La Masia behind the club’s back and exploiting a loophole s highly moral, a brilliant youth strategy by Wenger. Meanwhile, Barcelona signing a players from Leeds while Leeds is ok with the situation is evil and immoral.
I’m surprised you didn’t know this :D
Wow, I have not been on YAMA in a long time. DAG I enjoyed the Dixon piece even though I didn’t submit a question. Looks like there’s been plenty said already on Cesc. All I have to add is that I agree with Fred about Messi- I think Barca would definitely be better than Valencia, even without him. Seeing as how Spain are one of the only countries ever to win the Euro and WC back-to-back, and they did it with Iniesta/Xavi/Villa on the attack, I think Barca could manage w/o him. They wouldn’t be as good, but I don’t think the dropoff would be that bad. To me Spain is the proof.
What do you guys think about getting Larsson back from Birmingham on a free contract??
I also heard Hleb might be available on a free too. Not in any way a fan of Hleb but if used as a very deep CM (good for ball retention) beside the DM and as far away from the opposing box as possible, I could be down for that. Especially on a free.
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In my “will never happen” scenario of what Arsenal should do:
1) Give Nasri his 110kpw.
2) Offef Fabregas an increase of wages to 180 kpw, thank him profusely and ask him to stay till 2014.
3) Bring in Cahill, Baines, Larsson, Hleb, Oxlade Chamberlain.
4) Bring back Lansbury and Bartley.
5) Sell Bendtner, Vela, Diaby, Denilson, Squillaci, Eboue, Bendtner, Rosicky, Almunia, Clichy.
The sales literally pay for the incoming.
Final squad:
GK: Szsceny, Fabianski, Mannone
RB: Sagna, Jenkinson
LB: Baines, Gibbs
CB: Vermaelen, Cahill, Bartley, Djorou, Koscielny
DM/CM: Song, Hleb, Larsson, Lansbury, Wilshere, Frimpong
AM: Fabregas, Ramsey
RW: Nasri, Walcott
LW: Arshavin, Oxlade-Chamberlain
ST: RvP, Chamakh, JET
Not exactly earth-shaking, but several miles better than the drivel we had to put up with this last season. And it does not cost anything much (sales pay for buys).
If the club were really ambitious they could get rid of Chamakh and plump for someone similar to Benzema.
@Fred,
I don’t think you are too far off Fred –
Though I think Fabrianksi is a goner too to be replaced by Gordon.
Also Seb Larsson has said he is in talks with both Arsenal and Liverpool. I would personally prefer Larsson as a midfield back up than either Frimpong, Lansbury or Diaby and Denilson for that matter.
@Fred,
Shite Fred, you sold Bendtner twice. Is it that you hate him so much or are you trying to pull a Mafia double jeopardy on us? :)
@Caribkid,
Haha!
@Fred,
Looks like you got the Arsene fever now . Jenkinson would be way too much of a gamble to back up Sagna. No EPL experience and limited experience otherwise.
Sorry my friend, you just have to put up with the African Gazelle for at least one more season before you put him out to pasture on the Serengeti :)
As for your “soul brother” Hleib, give me a break. His days are done. Maybe he can play for Westham and help them get back to the top tier. That’s about it for him.
@Caribkid,
Then there is Bartley or DJ. RB is not that much of a trouble spot.
Either way, Eboue must NOT be on Arsenal’s payroll come pre-season. Hands down the stupidest player to have put on an Arsenal jersey.
@Caribkid,
Re: Hleb … am far from a fan. But I can think as a rotation CM, why not? Especially if played deep, far from the box (where he always annoys me maximally by his lack of shooting).
He can help with keep ball. At the very least he is miles ahead of the Disaster Diaby/Denilshit duo on that score. Give him a one year contract to fire him up.
A starting midfield of say: Song, Wilshere, Fabregas with Larsson, Hleb, Ramsey and Lansbury rotating with them is quite solid and deep.
In that mix, Larsson would keep Song on his toes. Hleb and Lansbury would be breathing down Wilshere’s neck, which would only improve Wilshere’s game. While Ramsey sits and learns from Fabregas.
That dynamic is much better than the nonsense we have now in midfield. And it comes with zero transfer fees. The wages of the departing Denilson/Diaby pay for the incoming.
Just trying to stay positive.
@Fred,
Nobody puts Hleb in the corner.
If he comes, he will become the head honcho of our playmaking department ;)
Seriously though, after spending around the same amount of time at the club……..
Hleb——> Arshavin?
@Mazza,
Arshavin is still by far a better and more decisive player. Wenger has literally killed him.
Hleb has never (and could never) put in that performance at Anfield – putting four past Liverpool.
Like I said, Hleb would be a good rotation guy for Wilshere. And he would come in for free, for relatively low wages and probably for a 2 year contract.
@Caribkid,
It was Maz who had the man love for Hleb. Should Fred be correct, cue up the swelling strings as Hleb and Mazza run in slow motion across the Emirates pitch towards each other’s waiting embrace.
Then really amp up the strings, as Hleb pulls a hammy on the way there, and goes down like he was shot by a sniper.
@vibe4arsenal,
“I can be your hero baby, I can kiss away your pain…….”
@Mazza,
Is that wind beneath your wings or are you just happy to see him?
@Fred, I’m not crazy about Larsson but he is really good in taking corners and free kicks. His delivery is pacey and has a low trajectory, something no Arsenal players have except for RvP sometimes.
Theo will have an even more difficult time with his “crosses”.\
We’re talking about a Birmingham reject when other clubs are going for much better players. Kind of shows where the Wenger era brought us.
Gervinho come and save us :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
@Arsenalistul,
Well, he could be a B’ham reject (though he did let his contract expire, so hard to tell) but he is an Arsenal trained player … and he is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Diaby and Denilshit.
He is 26 and been in England all his career, so ready to go from day one. He is combative and has good ball delivery.
All those characteristics would make an EXCELLENT backup/rotation player for Song! Especially as he is coming on a free.
DAG:
If those two players do not exist, then the team plays thru OTHER players, plays a completely different way, uses different tactics, etc.
How can anyone suggest that literally the world cup winning squad would fall over to Valencia without Messi? They do just fine WITHOUT MESSI when playing for Spain.
You manual subtraction of Messi’s goals is extremely poor statistics and logic. Sorry.
@Fred,
Fred in your never-ending quest to be the one with the last word and always proved right you ignore one little fact –
This isn’t my analysis or statistics – it was a simply analysis done by OptaSports (a very credible source) on the effect Messi and Ronaldo have with their squads.
It simply surmises that if you take away their goal production and assists the table would be different.
Hell the goal production of Barcelona dropped severely in the analysis. I’m sorry you don’t like the analysis but it is what it is.
@DaAdminGooner,
It has absolutely nothing to do with having the last word at anything. You gave a statistic to back up the “Valencia would have won without Messi and Ronaldo at Barca and Madrid” meme.
Sorry, that is completely illogical. And I have given several reasons, which you have not refuted in anyway. Please refute them if you want to continue this argument. Barca literally won the world cup for Spain (without Messi).
You can NOT simply arithmetically remove their goals because if those two didnt exist, then there would be other players in their stead, use different tactics, use different, defend differently, different thru balls, different runs, etc.
Again, Valencia would win SQUAT even if Ronaldo and Messi were not at those two clubs because Barca and Madrid have vastly superior midfields (the most important factor) and squads overall.
PS: When Valencia won La Liga last (in 2004) they had a VASTLY superior midfield of Albelda, Baraja, Aimar, Vincente and Angulo. In the early 2000s, it was Mendietta, Baraja, Gerrard, Kiki Gonzalez. They got to two CL finals.
Both times they had by far the best midfields in Spain. And had laughable strikers and no big time goalscorers. But they got the title.
I still can not understand why this blogger and even some Barca fans and “pundits” continue to compare Thiago to Xavi or Fabregas.
He is NOT a passer like either of those. His strength is movement and dribbling.
He is very much Iniesta – not Xavi.
It is like Arsenal fans saying Nasri can replace Cesc. Nasri (and Hleb before him) are not “passers”.
Sure you can decide to not have a dedicated supreme “passer” in your team and just plug in the player anyway.
@Fred,
OMG, we agree on something at last :)
It matters to me because a) it seems that Arsenal are in the market for players this year (if rumors are to be believed) and with the number of players seeking a way out they do need to replace them with someone. And hopefully those players are good. No I don’t think even Wenger is stubborn enough to bring up youth to cover for Bendtner, Nasri, Cesc, Vela (hah) and possibly Clichy. And b) selling players like Vieira and Henry for less than they were worth is exactly part of the problem. If Barcelona succeeds, every team that wants a player from Arsenal is going to do EXACTLY the same thing (i.e., using the media to unsettle players).
To answer your second question, I’m not sure how much Cesc is worth. It’s not my job to know. But when big money teams like Chelsea, Real Madrid, Man City, etc. start paying absurd money for players, it sets a new bar and I think judging by what top players are going for now that Cesc is worth pretty much exactly what Arsenal have stated.
Not sure why this posted here. It was a response to Stag’s question to me below. Strange.
@David Eshenbaugh, well. Barca said Cesc’s value has GONE DOWN, compared to last Summer… and seeing that he was injured a good part of the season, and Barcelona won the CL and League… I’d have to agree! Cesc’s value has gone down.
Again, Dave… Arsenal are NOT going to spend all the money they make from selling off players this Summer… they NEVER do… we always make a profit.
So, how much we get, I don’t really care… we aren’t going to spend it anyway.
And… we are already MOST DEFINITELY considered a SELLING CLUB by all major clubs around Europe. When you consistently sell your best players AND Captains… you are a SELLING TEAM.
Anyone can be bought from Arsenal.
@stag133,
Stag when was the last time we sold one of our best players? When was the last time we sold a Captain. That’s a few years removed.
As a matter of fact in the last two years Arsenal has not sold our best players (Adebuywhore aside). Time to move on from that.
Secondly, I disagree – if anything the value on Fabregas hasn’t changed. Coming into the season he was the engine that won Spain a World Cup. He still is capable of being the top midfielder in Europe – that kind of value doesn’t diminish at 24 years old.
I agree. And of course Barca are going to say his value went down. Arsenal’s asking price is more than they have to spend.
And if clubs think of Arsenal as a selling team, it’s EXACTLY because they used to sell their top players. The only way to change that perception is to change the way they do business.
Very good article and good work DAG finding writers…..
I’ve always maintained that it would be best for EVERYBODY for Cesc to return to Barca as a conquering hero, i.e. after winning with Arsenal. Unfortunately, I think it’s only going to get tougher as teams like Chelsea and ManCity continue to pour money into strengthening, while United get stronger through winning.
Ironically, young Cesc had an injury plagued poor season while Xavi and Iniesta had very good and relatively injury free seasons. Cesc should return as Xavi’s replacement but until the latter stops performing or gets hurt there isn’t any hurry.
Like I said, the article is excellent. The only omission is that there is no mention of Lionel Messi. I’m sorry, but if Messi is gone from the Barca team it’s a different ballgame. While the remainder of the team is rock solid, I think people are failing to appreciate just how good Messi really is. Replace him with a mortal and it gets much tougher. Barring injury, Xavi (and Iniesta and Busquets and Thiago….) can do what he’s doing as long as he’s got Leo. Without Messi, the better teams could actually press the ball and afford to cover players like Villa, Pedro, Iniesta and Alves who (with Leo on the pitch) are much freer to work. In other words, the need for Cesc is far greater if anything happens to either Xavi or Messi. As long as Leo stays fit we get to see the best football ever, marred only by the occasional spots where the other characters do what they do best (fake injury, con the refs, etc.). Luckily the CL final showed the better elements, and none of the worse…..(Can’t say the same for our match at the Nou Camp, nor the semi w/Madrid…..)
I think Stag (and others) make a decent point about delaying the inevitable and how that hampers the team, but I’ll stick with mine about the inherent quality of the Capitan and how it’s better for everybody to win something before he goes back. Of course we need him available (uninjured) and at his best. IMO it would be a huge blow to the current team to lose him at this juncture…..
@highburyterracesteve,
Excellent article from a somewhat different perspective.
Re Messi: That’s why they are trying to sign either Sanchez or Rossi because they have a similar game and would still provide a potent offensive trio along with any combination of Villa, Pedro and even Iniesta.
On the other hand, if Xavi gets injured they have no natural replacement close to that level and that’s where Cesc comes into the fray. Thiago is still a few years away from handling that pivotal role and Iniesta is better served out wide or further up front.
I can see Barca buying a forward, Rossi/Sanchez, Cesc and a CB, while allowing Maxwell and Bojhan to leave. They also have a good youngster in Montoya at CB who is just about ready to get some first team action.
If they don’t get Cesc this season they may buy both attackers and sell one next year to finance the acquisition of Cesc at that time.
@Caribkid, I kinda think that we’re in agreement….In that the pace of Barca’s game is a result of just how special Messi is. He can play one touch with Xavi, et al, but he can also turn and move with the ball in an unrivaled fashion. Players like Villa, Pedro and Iniesta can step in for Leo but none can match him. I haven’t seen that much of Sanchez or Rossi but I imagine they would generate similar pace.
Xavi occasionally can play a Cesc-like ball over the top but it’s not nearly so necessary in Barca’s current approach, esp. since they got rid of Ibra and take all their corners short. It’s why a static player like Busquets can look so good stroking the little one touch passes around.
My bigger point is that w/o the constant threat that Messi provides it gets much harder to make those passes at which Cesc and Xavi excel; the space which Messi creates for himself AND his teammates is far less if he’s off the pitch. Barca are a great team with a unique approach, but, IMO, Messi is the one irreplaceable cog……Xavi and a full on back-up, i.e., Cesc, become far more necessary if he goes down….
Edit to add: I have seen enough of Sanchez that I hope he goes somewhere and/or we don’t draw Udinese in the CL qualifier. No matter who we draw we had better conduct our business sooner than later and buckle down as a group so we’re ready for those matches. Any sort of hangover from the end of last season and we may be on the outside looking in…..
@highburyterracesteve,
Have not seen much of Sanchez but I would certainly welcome Rossi at Arsenal any day. Very clinical, pacey, versatile and loves to go one and one. Bulit like Messi.
Born and raised in NJ but decided to play for his parent’s country of birth, italy. What a loss for the US along with Neven Subotić who plays for Serbia.
@Caribkid, CK, the Sanchez I’m talking about is Alexis Sanchez who plays for Udinese and Chile (born in Chile)….He stood out for me in the World Cup and the couple of Udinese matches I watched. He is currently linked with City, United, Barca, Inter and Real Madrid for something around 30 million pounds(according to the Sun, with United as “hot favorites,” though that was yesterday)…..I don’t see him coming our way as it would be too much of a blockbuster signing AND it would “kill” Theo…..
Is there another Sanchez (i.e. the Italian-American you mention) who Barca are after?
@highburyterracesteve,
Ooops, forgot to insert the name of Guiseppi Rossi.
My bad.
Owe you a drink for that one.
@highburyterracesteve,
I think Xavi and Cesc can create just as much with or without Messi.
Sure, Messi is pretty much the best in the world, but the core jobs of passers like Xavi and Cesc is to create their own space.
Both do it quite well for Spain – without Messi.
Cesc does it extremely well – for our plank forwards.
Infact, Cesc creates chances for Theo “Brainless” Walcott by the bucketload. If he can do that for someone incredibly foolish, I bet he (and by extension Xavi) would have no problems whatever happens.
Messi can comfortably play 30% fewer games next season without Barca losing much in game outcome.
@Fred,
Actually totalBarca did an analysis of what happens when you remove Messi’s goal produiction from Barca and Ronaldo’s from Madrid.
Valencia wins the league.
No other goal scorers have as much impact on their team as those two. remove them from the team they are COMPLETELY different.
@DaAdminGooner,
Oh come on DAG, lets not get simple minded yet.
You mean to tell me that without Messi, the Xavi-Iniesta “god” axis would be standing pat as a mediocre Valencia win it? That is despite having a midfield trio plus Villa and Pedro as world cup winning starters? Really?
Similar with Madrid.
Messi and Ronaldo are great players but without those players their teams are STILL great and would just play thru other players.
These two players benefit from playing in a world class set up that gives them complete freedom and creates chances for them – while giving them a solid foundation to work their magic.
Without those two players Barca and Madrid still monopolize the top 2 spots because they both have VASTLY superior midfields. And the teams with the best midfields ALWAYS win their league.
Anyway you dice it, Valencia doesnt win squat.
@Fred,
I was wrong it wasn’t a totalBarca analysis – it was an OptaSports analysis that said taking out the goals and assists of Messi and Ronaldo from their respective teams the league would’ve finished as such:
Valencia: 21W 10L 7D G 64 GC 41 Pts 73
Barcelona: 20W 12L 6D G46 GC 20 Pts 72
Real Madrid: 19W 12L 7D G51 GC30 Pts 69
Face it with those two players each of their teams are different than they are without them.
Valencia wins the league.
@Fred,
DAG, that is incredibly idiotic logic.
If those two players do not exist, then the team plays thru OTHER players, plays a completely different way, uses different tactics, etc.
How can anyone suggest that literally the world cup winning squad would fall over to Valencia without Messi? They do just fine WITHOUT MESSI when playing for Spain.
You manual subtraction of Messi’s goals is extremely poor statistics and logic. Sorry.
Let him go home to Barcelona. I don’t want our Captain wanting to be somewhere else EVERY season… he says he’s happy here at Arsenal, then in the same paragraph, that the door is always open to a move there… he is smart about dancing around it, smart about not wanting to offend the Arsenal fans…
But with his recent spate of injuries in the last few years… I say we take the money, SPEND it on players who WANT to be here long-term, and move on.
Good Article. He’s Catalan. Its in his blood. His heart is always in Barcelona. Other Catalan players always went him there. Just get it done and move on. I don’t believe in holding players hostage. Get a good fee, let him go home. He’s been a good Arsenal soldier.
I agree, but only if Arsenal can get a good price for him. If they sell him at a cut-rate price it doesn’t bode well for future business. Every team will start trying to get players from Arsenal using the same tactics.
@David Eshenbaugh, David, two questions…
what’s a good price? 30 Million GBP? 35 Million?
and what does it matter to you what we sell him for… if Arsenal Football Club DOES NOT USE THE MONEY TO BUY NEW PLAYERS WITH? If the board and club are just going to pocket the profit, then HOW MUCH WE GET, had ZERO relevance to me.
Also… we sold both Vieira and Henry at FAR LESS than we could have got for them a season before… if Fabregas has another injury filled season, his value goes even lower…
@David Eshenbaugh,
Totally agree with your sentiments. However, if they need him so badly why not go for 30M + Affelay. that would solve one of our wing problems.
I’ve heard rumor that Arsenal are in talks with Eden Hazard so that may be an answer to that. I also think that Arsenal are trying really hard to make Cesc too expensive for Barca. That way they can say that they didn’t stand in the way of him leaving.
Cesc is staying in London. He is a world class player not a bench warmer. The rest is mute. He will probably go when his contract is up.