In the Aftermath of Manchester
Two trips to Manchester. Two heart wrenching defeats. Both with very different feelings about each but with the same outcome.
The trip a fort night ago that resulted in a loss to last year’s champions, Manchester United, has been dissected and discussed. It was a a head wracking loss in so much that for pretty much the entire match, the Gunners controlled all aspects of play. They took the lead on an absolute corker from Andrei Arshavin and nearly took the lead on a beautiful shot by Robin Van Persie.
However, a poor decision by Manuel Almunia led to a penalty that was converted by Wayne Rooney and Abu Diaby’s own goal header sealed the fate and broke the hearts of the Arsenal faithful.
Two weeks later, the Gunners travelled up to the northeast again, this time to face everyone’s new darling Manchester City. City have been in outstanding form lately. From their first 3 matches they allowed not a single goal. The tie against Arsene Wenger’s side was their first true test of the season.
As has been discussed ad nauseum, the Gunners lost. 4-2. Another defeat and this one to the supposed usurper of our spot in the big four. It also hurts more because it comes at the hands of a team that contains to very well known players to Gunners fans. Emmanuel Adebayor and Kolo Toure. Each leaving a very different mark on Arsenal but both now playing for the Light Blues.
In the aftermath a lot of discussion has occurred more about the behavior of one Togo striker rather than the result of the match. As of this writing Adebayor has been notified by the FA that he has been charged with both improper and violent conduct. The violent conduct charge has been fast tracked and likely is to result in a minimum of three match ban. The improper conduct charge is being reviewed by a completely different panel.
But again, this has been talked about and what needs to be done is ask ourselves what do these two losses mean? Are we in for another season like last or worse out of the Champion’s League for the first time in 12 years? Or maybe there is a positive direction? Still we have to ask, is this team capable of winning silverware – any silverware?
So what was it in the Manchester City match that is causing so much concern amongst the nay sayers? The Manchester United game it was clear where the issues where as other than the two blatant errors, the rest of the match was well played and the lads in red and white where always a threat against the champions.
Right from the start the Citeh tie seemed flat. The legs on most of our players were lethargic. Citeh came out with the verve necessary of a team trying to make a statement, but in reality they were little threat. Arsenal had control of the ball for most of the half and if not for another error by Manuel Almunia, the match would’ve likely gone into the dressing room as a nil nil draw.
City’s plan was clear from the start – back the whole team into the box and take away any passing lanes for Arsenal to create anything in front of Shay Given. While Arsenal weren’t given any clear chances with the exception of the Almunia OG, City’s threats were conveniently tied up too.
What was clear in the match besides Almunia’s continual faltering, is that Diaby and Song were slow to respond to City’s pushes. Whether that was due to tired legs, inexperience or lack of skill is anyone’s opinion. Either way, they did not create as much of a presence in the center of the field as did Nigel De Jong or Gareth Barry. Their contribution to snuffing out the Arsenal attack cannot be understated.
In addition to lack of control in the midfield, the Arsenal side proved yet again that they do not have a presence in the midfield to make opposition players think twice about harsh tackles on the Gunners. Mark Hughes went right from the Manchester United playbook and was intent on showing the steel of his side. The problem was that the steel – took over the focus of the match.
Down 2-1 after a brilliant goal by Craig Bellamy the Arsenal side became unnerved by the recklessness of Adebayor’s stamp on Robin Van Persie’s face. Within a scant few minutes after a whithered Arsenal attack, players began to throw themselves at Adebayor in retaliation. They were now clearly out of the game and focused on exacting some revenge against a player they loathe and for one they respect. However noble this was, it certainly caused lack of focus on the game and within no time we were down 4-1.
Until Arsenal learn to be ugly in the middle with a solid holding presence then all the beautiful football in the world will not amount to much. There needs to be a presence to cause the opposition some consternation and taking their attack of their game.
Bendtner still misses long portions of the game (even though he is on the pitch), Eduardo is only just back, Rosicky is slowly coming back and Walcott could be back too. But none of them are a holding midfielder, until that is need is filled or identified we could continue to be in trouble.
All that being said, it is 4 games into the season. In all of the games, the new formation is bearing fruit. The team are creating more chances. One of things I noticed is we are shooting more around the box then looking for the most beautiful goal. Last season it was infuriating to see the penetration in the box give way because the shot had to be perfect. Again, ugly football is good, even ugly goals.
Additionally, while Gael Clichy seems to be slipping, overall the middle of our defense and Sagna are playing amazingly well. Prior to all hell breaking loose on Saturday, Gallas and Vermaelen did an outstanding job of keeping the middle clear. Again, like against United, Celtic, Everton and Pompey, the lads had good control of key players on the field.
The Arsenal attack is solid and while I think a switching of RvP and Bendtner is needed to play to the Dane’s size, we have more options on the attack (when healthy) then most teams. We’ve created more solid chances even in the loss then I thought we could muster in our loses last season. Even on Saturday with the game down to 4-2 Arsenal had a chance to draw it on 6 separate occasions.
The EPL may be out of reach, Chelsea look far superior to everyone right now (ACoN pending of course) but all the domestic cups and the big European prize are there for the taking. Arsenal are very much in the run for them and in the end, I still believe it will be Liverpool to struggle for a CL spot not Arsenal.
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Kiwi,
When you have the chance to win trophies, you don’t sell off star players. It doesn’t make you better, or closer to the titles. That is what we have been doing for the past 3 or 4 years. We get close, we get teased by the “young talent”… and then before it all comes to fruition, we sell players off and try and bring in cheaper and younger replacements, which stalls the plan another few years.
If you want to WIN something, you take your good team, and you add a few key components… a dash of depth & experience.
Wenger’s plan? Sell off key players, make money for the club, hope upon hope than injured players return (they are like new signings in his world)… and that new injuries don’t occur.
Are you not tired of the excuses when we lose? They other teams don’t come to play football, they play ugly football, and other tripe.
When we had a proper team, with proper depth, experience in the squad, we didn’t need non-sense from the manager.
We NEVER replaced the steel. We have a bunch of finesse players that can be out-physical-ed (if that’s a word).
It has been that way for how many years? Why is that good? Why is that acceptable that Wenger never addresses the team’s deficiencies?
Because “Arsene knows”?…
If he wasn’t making big money for the club, he’d be gone already, but we win the profit league. Realize that is the
important thing… and it will go a long way to explaining why we don’t truly compete for trophies every year.
The issue is NOT the stadium. Sorry.
Stag, mate, it’s been a while since I’ve been called optimistic!! ;-)
“Why not BUY a few more in the Arshavin mold? 25 or 26 years old… a little seasoning? What would be the problem of mixing in a bit of experience with the youth? Have we not been saying this for 2 or 3 years?”
….valid point, I’ve said as much myself.
I’ll tackle you on Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira and Pires again. You have inferred we sold them while they still had gas in the tank. In a sense yes, but the reality is ALL clubs turnover players even stars. It’s a rare player that sustains his desire for one club through to retirement – ala Bergkamp. My point is we extracted a fantastic return from these guys – a rare return for foreign stars. They do not support your contention that we are a selling club. Perhaps your point is that we failed to replace them with stars?
There was a sense of inevitability about Toure and Ade going. I think we are better. But respect your view ;-)
It was between Toure and Gallas – as much as I love Toure’s contribution – Arsene probably made the right call. With Ade, it’s all been said. One point often missed is that he may do better with a team that actually cross the ball and play with intensity.
I agree with you on Hleb/Flam – that wasn’t in the script. The Hleb/Flam/Ade disenchantment scenario showed everyone that Arsene’s Grande Experiment has major risks. It was a spoke in the wheel. And I whinged about it all last season! ;-)
I think he replaced Hleb with Nasri – yet there was always going to be a timelag while Nasri and the team adapted. For me Arsene erred here, he could have bought Arshavin pre-season (in addition to Nasri) and covered a multitude of issues for the team. Bad call.
Flam’s departure resulted in Denilson’s education being fast-tracked and I feel sorry for the lad for the bullets he took for Arsene’s decision. Although I liked his dignity a lot. With the move to 4-3-3, and Song’s improvement, I feel the midfield isn’t such an issue. If we go back to 4-4-2 it might be.
With hindsight Ade should have gone, he stunk out the dressing room and continues to stink us out!
So yes I agree the Hleb/Flam/Ade disenchantment saga proved that Arsene’s plan was high risk. And he got the timing of Arshavin’s signing badly wrong even in the context of his Grande Experiment.
With Fabregas. Hmmm. Even if he goes in say 2-3 years, we’ve had great service from him and will likely get a huge fee. Yes I think there is a chance he will go but similarly if we progress I think there is a good chance he may stay. It’s the risk we get for buying a Barca boy not a result of being a selling club. Barca is one of the worlds great clubs with a passionate and romantic history, the pull to play at least part of your career with them would be immense for any Barca boy. The fact that despite being wanted by Barca during a great era he chooses to stay with Arsenal is a huge endorsement to the pulling power of Arsene and the glamour he has brought to Arsenal a club previously called boring.
We’ve still got it all to do though ;-)
These are FANTASTIC… from Studs Up Comics!
Check them out.
This is Arsene & Cesc
http://www.studs-up.com/2008/12/the-art-of-persuasion/?page=9
This is from Adebayor / RVP last weekend.
http://www.studs-up.com/2009/09/forgive-and-forget/
enjoy!
I think your comments on Barca/buying v Arsenal/selling are too simplistic Stag.
When we get stars we actually keep them for quite a while. Have a look at the length of service from Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, and Vieira. Even Fabregas. All foreigners kept for a long time. The difference between then and now is the small matter of knitting together a winning team. I have no doubt at all that if Wenger meshes together a winning team we WILL keep the majority of the stars.
The other aspect is Wenger’s preference. Truth is, he likes developing stars not buying them. So because of this we’ve never looked like a ‘buying club’ under Arsene.
Taking a more strategic view. When we further pay down the loan, we WILL be a very wealthy club capable of paying high transfer fees if we choose.
Kiwi, I know you are a hopeless optimist. It’s OK.
No, we aren’t better by losing Adebayor and Toure, and not bringing in proper replacements. We didn’t even address the problems of last season in a DM or first class keeper.
We sold Pires, Vieira, and Henry. It could be said that ALL were in their prime, or were slightly on the decline. OK, well, since then, we’ve begun to let younger players go, for kids.
Hleb, Adebayor, Toure, Flamini…
It can be argued that Hleb and Flamini were better at Arsenal than they will ever be elsewhere, but wouldn’t THIS TEAM, with both of those players in it be something?
We are a selling club. It’s a fact. When Wenger “makes” a star player, you know he will be available in a year or two.
What are you going to say when Fabregas goes in a year or two?
He’ll be what, 24?
Why not BUY a few more in the Arshavin mold? 25 or 26 years old… a little seasoning? What would be the problem of mixing in a bit of experience with the youth? Have we not been saying this for 2 or 3 years?
Sorry, the Wenger policy is clearly off the tracks.
F*CK the loan. That’s bullshite. It has nothing to do with the loan.
I think we’re in a better space this season than last.
Last season we started on the back foot, Flamini and Hleb departed, Adebayor had wanted to go, Rosicky & Eduardo were out long-term, RvP was uncertain physically, Gallas was still the captain and the ineffective Gallas/Toure p’ship was still the go.
This season we start with much of the above being redressed. Two players have left who were no longer happy, this helped resolve two issues. The first the CB pairing, with Gallas/Verma looking much happier. The second, with Adebayor leaving we no longer have a striker up front who seems an awkward fit with our style.
RvP has proved fitter – great! ;-) Eduardo and Rosicky are both taking tentative steps back on-field. Double-great!! ;-)
Fabregas is captain, and whilst he wouldn’t have been my pick he hasn’t looked uncomfortable. Gallas has been rehabilitated – kudos to Arsene. :-)
More ups, Arshavin is here and has half a season under his belt. This guy is a great fit for Arsenal and this team. I hope he stays focused (and happy).
It is possible that Arsene’s stubbornness will pay dividends. The fact he has persisted with the likes of Bendtner, Walcott, Diaby, Denilson, Song, Clichy & Djourou for 3-6 years may well see on-field benefits emerge. Whilst that won’t erase these past few years of frustration, if these guys start playing more consistently and more effectively – fantastic.
Of course it is all there for them to prove. Nothing has yet been accomplished. I’m not getting carried away, yet still, I see more cause for hope than last season.
Does ESPN no longer own the US broadcasting rights for the Champions League?
I think it is interesting that we “switched off” or were out of sorts for a period after the Adebayor stamp incident on Van Persie. I see a parallel (of sorts) between this and the Eduardo incident at Birmingham two years ago. An injury to a fellow team mate occurs and the team has a tough time mentally re-grouping, focusing, and getting back to business during the game. Surely it is human nature to react this way, but as professionals I would hope (expect) them to find a way to put it out of their minds and get on with it.
Is this the mental strength we are missing? A symptom of youth? How can we overcome this in the future? Can we use these incidences as a rallying cry in the future instead of making us timid? Would having an “enforcer” on the team help? I don’t know the answer but it is a potential cause for concern.
We definitely NEED a physical presence in the team. Since Patrick Vieira was sold, we haven’t won shit. Draw your own conclusions, I’ll draw mine. But when you have finesse players, and nobody will stand up to protect them, they get intimidated and physical play effects them.
If Vieira was in the team, Adebayor would have been the recipient of a physical hard tackle. Hey, maybe he would have taken a red card, we got a lot of those back then, but you didn’t feck with us.
The ability to deal with stress, or in the face of disaster, comes with experience. We have lacked that for years.
Chelsea and ManU look very professional outfits with a lot of experience. Yet each has issues to resolve, ManU has to create a new attack, Chelsea have to adapt to yet another manager. Yet for me they are the two most likely contenders.
I’ve never been convinced by Liverpool under Benny. They need to win the title to convince me.
For me our chances in the EPL remain less likely than ManU or Chelsea. Yet we have a chance if events work for us. But we need a number of ‘if’s’ to work in our favour and that’s not a great basis. You know the ones, the crocks contributing, the younglings maturing, the strikers adapting, the defensive formation holding together, injuries staying away. It’s not that these things don’t apply to our rivals, it’s just they apply more to us.
If our season melts away the Manchester games will be viewed as pivotal, but like I said recently we have a wonderful opportunity to get a serious run happening.
On another topic….
It’s interesting to see how aspects of Barcelona are being mirrored at Arsenal. The 4-3-3 is obviously Barca, the commitment to attack over defence, the passing game, the preference for compact mobile midfielders and footballing defenders, even the swapping of the attackers (Eto wide & Messi central) has a certain similarity to RvP/Bendtner. If there is a team that mirrors the way Arsenal aspire to play the game it’s probably Barcelona whilst off the pitch Ajax with their commitment to ‘their style’ and growing their team with an awesome youth setup also has parallel.
I must say I’m glad our approach mirrors these great clubs.
except for one thing, Barcelona bring IN star players, while we only SELL THEM.
We will never get to their level doing business that way, and continuing the merry-go-round with our best players and captain’s no less, being sold.
That is a loser mentality, and why we ARE a selling club.
Sure, it will be Liverpool… because you know its not going to be Chelsea or United.
I bet they are saying the exact same thing, its going to be Arsenal, not us that struggle for the 4th spot.
The fact is, its a crying shame that we are already having this discussion 4 matches into a new season, but that is what occurs when you do not improve your team.
We played well enough against United, but they get it done, they have the experience and depth, they don’t wilt under pressure… we don’t.
ManCity played us like we were any other team. They did not play 10 behind the ball and punt… they played us. They beat us. They were better than us. And they have to believe now, if they didn’t before, that they can take our top 4 spot.
Well, I wouldn’t discount United completely yet. Seriously, they do not look as dangerous as they have in the past.
I would beg to differ that United got it done against us. Outside of Almunia’s idiotic gaffe and Diaby trying to one up him with an OG header – United posed little threat to score that day.
SUre, Citeh beat us. Sure the played us well. But watch the match again, watch the first half, pretty much the entire Citeh squad is clogging up the box. They didn’t just slug the ball out though, they carried it out.
I still think they are for real – more for the personality reason. If anything Adebayor has proven all again that he is more about himself more than team, Robinho is already desirous of a move to Barcelona, Craig Bellamy’s issues are the stuff of legend.
City will fade away and will find 5 or 6 comfortably.
And I still think Liverpool look ordinanry
We are 2 wins – 2 losses, and you are saying United don’t look that good? They played like shit and STILL BEAT US!
You think there is a chance they are going to fall out of the top 4? That’s laughable. THEY WILL bring whoever is necessary in January, IF they need anyone.
City took us down. They didn’t have Tevez or Robinho, and still put 4 past us… how you can take a positive from that match, I don’t know.
Liverpool look ordinary? In comparison, we look shitty.
We will play good football, pretty football, and bury some teams this season. We do every year… but make no mistake, we are NOT better than we were last year. We didn’t improve the team, and have the same problems.
As always, I hope I am 100% wrong, but not even close from what I have seen so far.