Annus horribilis – Arsenal style

Well, it’s been two days since the end of the season. A brief wave of relief has come over me as writing match previews has been rather hard these last few weeks. A lot has been said in the aftermath of the season. There were positives, and lots of negatives and maybe this will be paintful. Maybe it will be cathartic, but let’s take a look at where it all went so wrong.
I think we would be negligent if we didn’t mention the fact that a lot of players, even ones we had hopes for, didn’t live up to the expectations of their past feats or the expectations of playing in a club like Arsenal. The list here is long, the names are very familiar – Denilson, Diaby, Bendtner, Rosicky, Squillaci, Almunia, and Arshavin are a few. To me the biggest disappointment is Arshavin.
The man can be pure magic when he has the desire. Even when he shows a half arsed attempt he is better than 2/3 of the players in the EPL but for much of the season ran up and down the pitch with little or no impact. I will give him the goal against Barcelona that a historic win for Wenger’s side but overall many of the matches he was part of – he simply disappeared. I know players will not be able to play every game at a high level, through a 38 game EPL season and all the cup ties, players become fatigued and their form ebbs and flows. But this wasn’t about form for Arshavin – he simply looked like he couldn’t be bothered.
Now, I’ve singled out Arshavin, because frankly in the list of players I mentioned earlier he is by the greater talent. I have come to expect half-arsed performances from the others. Rosicky only because I do not think he has ever recaptured that “Little-Mozart” form before he was riddled with injuries. The rest well that hangs on Wenger’s head for believing in players who clearly shouldn’t ever have been picked for this squad.
But as you review some of the major matches of this season they articulated what we’ve been saying all along – when it comes to this squad even the talented players to not have the mental fortitude to get it done. Sure there are other issues like a defence that spends more time spread than a cheap hooker. Like having one capable forward, one who might work if he can grow into the English game and one who thinks he is better than he already is. These are a few but really the biggest is the mental ability to get over the hump when it is needed.
In almost every loss – except at the end when the title was decided, Arsenal were playing with a chance to make up ground on leaders – be it early in the season when Chelsea were leading or later when United were, in each one the bottled it. The made mistakes, didn’t come out sharp enough or waited until the 70th minute to get going.
I lay out my case:
September 25, 2010 – West Brom 3 – Arsenal 2
With a win Arsenal can pull closer to league leading Chelsea. In the match Arsenal were lucky to not be down within the first half as Chris Brunt missed a penalty that was awarded when Manuel Almunia (remember him) brought down Peter Odemwingie in the box. But that is misleading because for the first half most of the match former Arsenal player Jerome Thomas gave Arsenal fits. Odemwingie put the visitors ahead in the 50th minute and the lead was further locked in when an Almunia blunder caused the Baggies to go ahead 2-0. West Brom went up 3-0 on a rocket from Thomas in the 73rd minute. Samir Nasri scored twice for Arsenal but the result was deciving as too many mistakes and mental errors cost the Gunners a chance to catch up to Chelsea.
November 7, 2010 – Newcastle 1 – Arsenal 0
Another chance to catch Chelsea. Another missed opportunity. For much of the match Arsenal were in a general malaise. They were unfortunate as two shots hit woodwork but a mental error in the 45th minute but Lukasz Fabianski cost the gunners a goal from Andy Carroll. Through all their pressure they could not break down a determined side.
November 20, 2010 – Spurs 3 – Arsenal 2
Here was the first real sign of the things that would really plague this team down the stretch. It was the North London Derby. A chance to go top of the league was at stake. Arsenal started brightly and the first half was what we had hoped for from this team in terms of its ability and skill. The Gunners outclassed and outmanned their cross town rivals and in front of a home crowd got lathered up into a frenzy. But in a tale that would be all too familiar the Gunners could not hold a lead. They could not seal the deal and move into first on the table. With a goal in 5 minutes at the start of the second half – the faithful and players alike began to have a distinct sinking feeling that Gunners could not find a way to hold on. And they weren’t wrong. First, during a Van der Vaart free kick raised their arms to protect their face and the ball hit it leaving little choice for Fat Phil Dowd but to award the PK. And then int he final bone headed move of the day, PL newbie Laurent Koscielny brings down Bale just outside the box in the ensuing free kick a Kaboul header sealed the collapse and served as a portend of the last few months of the year.
February 5, 2011 – Arsenal 4 – Newcastle 4
Okay, I am not going to go over every aspect of this game. it is now on the list as the game of the season. For Arsenal fans for all the wrong reasons. From the petulance of Diaby and the iniability of 10 men to hold a 4-0 lead – it was a microcasm of everything that is wrong with the squad as it is currently made up. From players who don’t belong in the team to the mental fragility of the squad of all it was there on display.
February 27, 2011 – Arsenal 1 – Birmingham 2 (Carling Cup Final)
In what was the watershed moment of the season, the Gunners began their version of the Bataan death march by completely bottling their first final in a few years. In what was supposed to be a launching pad for this season’s greatness it was a launching pad allright but not as we had all expected. For much of the match Birmingham had presented themselves a resolute foe. Towards the end however, when it looked like the match would go to extra time, Arsenal looked fairly in control and better for the winner. However, a major mental error on the part of Szczesny and Koscielny gifted the ball onto the foot of Obafemi Martins with an open net at his disposal. With minutes left, the Gunners hopes for their first piece of silverware were dashed. What we didn’t know but some of us suspected was that the catalyst this would become would result in Arsenal finishing fourth in the league and ending the season on a whimpering note.
February 28 through May 22 2011
The crash towards the end of the season started with the Birmingham loss in the Carling Cup final. In the immediate aftermath a team that was in the running for 4 competitions suddenly saw itself in only one as the Gunners crashed out of the Champion’s League and FA Cup within a fortnight of the loss. Then with only the Premier League to play for the Gunners proceeded to go on a run of games that for lesser teams would’ve been relegation worthy.
In the last 11 games of the season the Gunners meekly worked their way through a 2W 3L 6D record. Hardly championship quality was it. With the poor run of form the Gunners fell from grace and will now have a shortened pre-season as they must play in a Champion’s League qualifier. The good news on that, the Gunners won’t be seeded which means they won’t face the likes of Bayren or Villareal. The bad news, the malaise could carry over unless substantial changes are made to the team.
All that is left today is for the Gunners to take a hard look at themselves and see where they are and where they want to be. Some of the deadwood players have already come out and said they want to leave. Part of me is wondering if they were told anyway they would be sold. The problem becomes for those players is finding teams who can handle their wages. But we don’t have to worry about that. We just need to see a seismic shift in some of the players and the preparation of the club.
Arsene Wenger for his part has come out and said this:
“The market will be hyperactive because everyone believes financial fair play will happen soon,” Wenger said, referring to Uefa’s tighter regulations on club spending. “So we are quickly doing the last buying before the stores will be closed. And for the first time for a while, I will be very active, too.”
Additionally, Wenger has already had discussions with Denilson on his exit and the clubs is said to be willing to take £9 million for Nicklas Bendtner. So the movement is there. The key will be what does Wenger do to address the mental frailty that was so on display. Does he get someone like a Gary Cahill who is a vocal leader or does he continue to depend on the likes of Van Persie and Fabregas to lead? Given they were part of the problems this year (in terms of leadership) maybe that is not wise.
Sure there are other issues that need to be addressed. Tactics being one of them, the defence being another but the mentality more than anything seemed to be what this club missed when it mattered most. I didn’t highlight every loss – even I am not that much of a masochist. But the fact is this, had there been someone who could’ve rallied the troops when Diaby gets sent off at Newcastle or when Spurs scored their opening goal in the second half maybe the Gunners could’ve focused and held on. We don’t know because it didn’t hapen that way.
Finally those who say there were injustices along the way that did us in – maybe that’s true. But in every game there were also instances where we were our own worst enemy. In the end the table never lies. We are where we are because of how we played or in the words of Ronaldo –
“We lost because we didn’t win”
Until next time – Stay Goonerish!!!
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Samir Nasri is a good player, much better than most we have now.
I would not sell him in all probablity, whether or not he signs a new contract. Many clubs do not like Bordeaux didn’t. (e.g. Chamakh)
Also, there is a certain advantage in keeping a player in your club when he is in the last year of a contract. He plays with greater desire and a much greater personal incentive at stake. Like we saw with Flamini. Thus we may find them overperform, and if we have any intentions of strengthening up for next season to win, this can help.
So, I think, as a club Arsenal might play hardball with Nasri and Clichy, and try to get their signatures, by threatening to sell them off, but in the end, in actuality, it should not cross the mind of the management to actually sell them.
Similarly, I would wait 2-3 months into the season, and renew van Persie’s contract only then, if he can prove to himself and the club that he can stay fit beyond a season.
In other things. the malaise in the team is greater now, and it looks weaker than last year even after the emergence of Wilshere, Ramsey, Sneezy, and Koscielny.
I have little hope that only a couple of signing here or there can make any difference.
What we need apart from a few important players in crucial positions, and selling of deadwood, is a sense of accountability, and a complete ban on unwarranted media comments during the season.
Arsenal, we are getting tired of this disastorous repetitive loop Please get up.
Samir Nasri is a good player, much better than most we have now.
I would not sell him in all probablity, whether or not he signs a new contract. Many clubs do not. (e.g. Chamakh)
Also, there is a certain advantage in keeping a player in your club when he is in the last year of a contract. He plays with greater desire and a much greater personal incentive at stake. Like we saw with Flamini. Thus we may find them overperform.
So, I think, as a club Arsenal might play hardball with Nasri and Clichy, and try to get their signatures, by threatening to sell them off, but in the end, in actuality, it should not cross the mind of the management to actually sell them.
Similarly, I would wait 2-3 months into the season, and renew his contract only then, if he can prove to himself and the club that he can stay fit beyond a season.
The malaise in the team is greater now, and it looks weaker than last year even after the emergence of Wilshere, Ramsey, Sneezy, and Koscielny.
I have little hope that only a couple of signing here or there can make any difference.
What we need apart from a few important players in crucial positions, and selling of deadwood, is a sense of accountability, and a complete ban on unwarranted media comments during the season.
Arsenal, we are getting tired of this disastorous repetitive loop Please get up.
very comprehensive write-up, dag. i’ve always been an advocate of good leadership. it’s a way of life for me. arsenal selling vieira signaled the beginning of the end. stag, mazza, seattle, and a few of the other old-timers remember me going off about that. wenger lacked the foresight to predict how vieira’s departure would affect the team when it was plain to see.
first, you never make an attacking player your captain. the hardest craft in football is scoring goals and making an attacking player your captain means you either lose the cutting edge in attack or leadership on the rest of the pitch. no one man can straddle the fence and do both. with a dm or cb providing leadership, they’re in the best position to see and control the team and your goal-getters can foucs on scoring.
wenger has tried to address the weakness of the defense by bringing in experienced winners in those positions. gallas, silvestre, campbell part 2, lehmann part 2, and even squillaci have all won plenty of silverware in their careers before coming/returning to arsenal. but it’s not so simple to apply a winning mentality. last summer, fred suggested arsenal sign joe cole and mahamadou diarra to mentor the young players. their signings would have failed for the same reason the others haven’t worked out. the guys you want to mentor have got to come in the door better than who you’ve already got. if you bring in some old has-beens that aren’t good enough to demand a place in the starting line-up, no one is going to listen to them. it’s not the nature of young men. gallas was the only one that came in the door ready and wenger was lucky to get him.
then wenger did the unthinkable by making gallas captain and not supporting him. if you don’t support your subordinate leadership, you’re undermining them and creating dissent in your own ranks. what your captain says should carry the same weight as if the boss himself says it and the repercussions for defiance should follow suit. so, for me, leadership has always been the problem since vieira was sold. someone referred to arsenal as “rudderless” and that’s a very accurate description.
@joshuad,
The choice of captain at this point is irrelevant. There are far bigger fires at the club. There is nothing a Tony Adams at age 28, breathing fire and brimstone could have done to help THIS squad. Gerrard is an excellent captain, doesnt help Liverpool significantly.
Nobody would be talking about getting FREE transfers like Joe Cole and Diarra if Nero Wenger and his AKB minions had not already turned the conversation into “spending money is bad”.
Even in January when ALL sensible fans could see the crash coming, you lot were telling us that there was absolutely NOBODY that could be brought in for good money. It is in that light that the fans get excited about any major player available for free.
Plus, no proof that because a player doesnt do well at one club, he couldnt have at another in a better environment (van der Vaart, Vieira, Henry and thousands of players would beg to differ).
And even if they failed, first, they were free, next they could surely not have been any more useless than Rosicky, Denilson and Diaby, who should have been shipped out last summer anyway.
@Fred, anyone who knows anything about leadership, knows that leadership is always relevant. you can have the best players in the world but if you have no leadership, you won’t win trophies in england. arsenal, since vieira’s left, is the perfect example. while liverpool might have done well after dalglish took charge, they would have been even better with a fit and motivated gerrard leading the team on the pitch.
but if you know nothing about leadership, just make something up and argue it very “matter of fact-ly” whatever it takes to win an argument. got it.
speaking of making shit up, i have said numerous times that players good enough to help arsenal win trophies are hard to find at a decent price in january. but i don’t recall anyone declaring that no good players were available for good money in january except for you. so, your argument isn’t with me and “my lot”. your argument is with a figment of your imagination.
just change his words around and argue that as vehemently as possible. whatever it takes to win an argument. got it.
joe cole went to liverpool because it was the only top team he had a snow-ball’s chance in hell of getting into. he only had to compete with ryan babel and maxi rodirguez. babel left and cole still can’t get into the liverpool side. imagine his 90k a week wages at the emirates to “mentor wilshere” nuts! and you wanted to introduce diara to the bpl at 29 years old? what outfield player has come to a top team in england and done well at 29? makelele is the only one and he was world class for three straight years before he came while diarra’s spent the past three years being a perennial broke-dick. what kind of impact was he supposed to make? who was he supposed to mentor?
picking our worst players and declaring that there are players better than them is not a legitimate argument as any team in the world could make the same argument. you declared that there were “hundreds of players” that are clearly better than diaby that we could have signed in january for a decent price. i challenge you to name three. we can put money on it, slick. otherwise, piss off.
@joshuad,
Hahahaha!!!!
Getting testy I see …. calm down, its just an argument.
Again, there is NO point talking about the captaincy as if its a big issue when there is a serious deficit of QUALITY in the team.
VIeira and Adams can NOT save this team. It has too many structural and technical HOLE. But I’ll let you keep on beating the captaincy drum.
Leadership is very important. But it is the last ingredient necessary. First you need quality. Nero Wenger’s team does not have quality, technical nous, a work ethic or any sort of mental strength. No captain in the world can fix all those.
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BS about your January arguments. You and Arthur were arguing with me about the merits of even buying in January. Y’all were saying how NOBODY is available that is better than the current lot who would come in for a reasonable price …. AND even if such existed they would not want to sit on the bench anyway!!!
Haha!
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Oh yeah, sure Cole struggled under Hodgson. He has been playing under Dalglish, who you underrate. Injured half the season, so probably good we didnt get him …. but guess what he played MORE than Rosicky who is earning the SAME wage as him. So whatever!
As for Diarra, he is back to his best at Monaco (who he joined in January).
Even with his Overmars style injury record he is a good shot more mobile than Alex “Turtle” Song – our first and only DM. No point even comparing him or any other player with Denilshit. But then again you told us Deni boy was better than Pirlo in 2008, so you might not be objective about that.
@Fred,
Funny seeing people who have spent so much energy defending Wenger, for years, suddenly so interested in the value of leadership.
But, go on. Making Gallas Captain. Yes, that’s where it all went wrong.
Wonderful analysis, right on the point.
Looking back shall help us find a way ahead – says an old Sanscrit proverb :-)
So, we have a squad composed of very few stars, some completely inadequate players for the English game, and a vast majority of very badly coached youngsters who all have been given very high salaries. With this bunch we finished fourth in the EPL, and accomplished what the board and AW wanted, a place in the ECL.
The fans are in dilemma because they believed what AW, and the club, have said for many years, that AFC is on the same level as the very select “cream” of European clubs.
The results in the last 6 years strongly contradict this.
With this state of mind the fans try to solve the situation by dreaming about major player personnel changes, and/or heaven forbid, even a managerial change.
Looking at the current board, at the owners, at the financial state of the club, major changes are not justified.
In order to build a WINNING team, which might not be the goal of the board/owners/management, the playing philosophy needs to change which will in turn allow for the restructuring of the squad.
Playing Barca style with mediocre players who are badly coached is not a solution for winning.
Acquiring world class players is impossible given the reluctance of the manager to change his philosophy, and because Arsenal will have to pay EXTRA to convince those candidates to take a humongous risk regarding their future. Did anybody thought about Real Madrid buying several German/Iranian/Turkish wunderkids for around 10 million, when all that Wenger gets for a comparable amount is Koscielny?
There are many players who want to leave because of the failed policies of the manager, there are many players who do not deserve to be at Arsenal but are impossible to sell because of their high salaries/current contracts.
The “team”is self destructing, the fans are upset, the media is making a mockery of the state and future of the club.
Does ANYBODY really believe that AW will change and suddenly will start building a team from ground up, starting with the defense? Not me, I’m afraid.
The coaching mistakes were horrendous this year, the constant denial of the lack of quality and mental strength of the squad, is bordering on madness.
Maybe is unfair to ask AW for more, perhaps we should keep drinking the koolaid, but ….in a league with Sir Alex everybody is compared to him. If what AW said publicly about the team is what he really meant, then he just failed miserably.
As long as he stays at Arsenal WE’RE DOOOOOOOMED.
As a lot of you know, I’m a big fan of the Bundesliga (given that I lived there for almost a decade a while back) …. but end of season stats from Soccernet show why YOU guys should probably be tuning in more ….
– HIGHEST goals per game amongst the top leagues for the 21st season running!
– Highest average attendance in Europe. 50 % higher attendance on average than any of the other top leagues.
– Now ranked Europes number 3 league – and given 4 CL spots (ahead of Serie A demoted to 4th place and 3 CL spots).
When you add that to the
– excellent atmosphere at the stadiums,
– the very low ticket prices and excellent transportation,
– the complete unpredictability of the league, ANY team can get into the top four – literaly.
– the diverse playing styles of the teams, (mixture of Anglo-style fast paced, Latin technicians, East European and African influences in almost equal measure.
It is certainly an enjoyable league that one should be following to diversify your emotions from the Wenger madness.
Well, well, well, nothing to say about the Fulham game other than, I wish the Wenger Girls had lost it 3-0. A loss wont have affect our getting fourth place …. but the draw allows for some hilarious spin from Arsene “Harold Camping” Wenger and his AKB minions.
I reallly can not wait for the day when the Arsenal is rid of that guy.
Other side note: In a really hilarious twist, the team that pulled down our pants and humiliated us in the CC final get relegated!!!
That is epic really.
In reference to ManU tapping up Nasri (Stag, below) it appears that Samir is gonna play hardball and see what the market will bear. I’m curious what people think about him as an asset to our team….i.e., what might be a worthwhile transfer value and/or salary offer.
IMO Nasri is a fine, fine player with limitations. Certainly I don’t see him as a potential Iniesta as somebody here once suggested, nor as a creative attacking midfielder who might step in as a replacement for Cesc. Relative to his own on-the-ball abilities, his eye for a pass seems limited as does his ability to intelligently and aggressively fill spaces. The latter might be attributable to a problem staying positive when played in a wide position. Like many others on the team who get played out wide (Bendtner, Arshavin, Walcott) Nasri is a scorer, not a crosser. All these guys, IMO, have relative tendencies to pout when they have to start on the touch-line, despite the big central holes that often could be exploited when RVP (or Chamakh) drop deep to work the ball. Early season, with Cesc and Walcott out and the less mobile Chamakh up front, Nasri had more time and space and the need for him to make aggressive central moves was more pressing. As the others came back he seemed to take a more passive wide role.
Combining this with a certain petulance (the row with Gallas) and maybe a chip on the shoulder that comes with being French-Algerian vs French White or French-West African, I think that there are “personal issues” which are holding Samir back, in addition to footballing ones. I would like to think the former will disappear and that he can reach his full potential for us and become an important leader on the team, but I’m curious what others believe.
In the end it looks as if the club will have to weigh all these factors, decide what sort of contract to offer and either hope that it’s enough to keep him or fetch a worthwhile transfer fee if it isn’t.
My question for the would be managers/CEOs is what would those values be? Also, would there be a premium (how much?) to sell to a direct rival?
@highburyterracesteve,
I agree with your assessment of Nasri. A very talented player but one who has to fight against his natural complacent nature in order to be effective. By default he is a pointless show pony who follows his own passes and takes too long to penetrate. As you said, he’s also not very pro-active off the ball and prefers to drop off and receive the ball in space. He actively went against his default mode at the start of the season – riled by the World Cup omission, solid pre-season, and a right sided forward position that suits his game – and he excelled in all the areas where he usually flatters to deceive.
We have a problem in that both him and Walcott prefer the right side of attack, and neither are effective on the left, so that’s an issue that needs sorting. Nasri is the better player clearly but Walcott seems more committed to the cause and frankly we need to move away from this french stroppyness that permeates whenever we face adversity.
Basically I would rather keep him but I wouldn’t be devastated to see him leave. From a neutral point of view I would be interested to see how he would develop under SAF, and Nasri himself might be witnessing first-hand Wenger’s increasing neurosis and see the need to move in order to progress.
@highburyterracesteve,
As I said back in January, Nasri is gone for sure.
He and Clichy broke off contract talks when the going was good, but with just one year on their contracts. Players with honorable intentions just dont do that.
They want out. And it is really ironic that it seems like it is the French/Francophone players that seem to want out the most often – given that the manager is a French Tw#$ like them. Zero loyalty – despite all the time wasted on them.
I dont rate Nasri that much. As you guys said, he is not proactive or a good passer. He is decent. And definitely better than Walcott or who have you. But if he wants to leave, no one will shed a tear.
@highburyterracesteve, samir hasn’t signed a contract yet because he is considering his options, which are many. as he’s coming into his prime, he would be a fool not to. i wouldn’t read too much into that.
samir’s exclusion from the world cup may have given him a bit of motivation but his super start to the season was much simpler than that. last year, nasri used to dick-dance on the ball (showcasing) where this year, his dribbles were more penetrative. that’s down to two things. first, a natural tactical maturity at his age. second, at the start of the season, he played behind a #9. say what you will about chamakh but he stretched defenses. that meant space for the team to exploit. behind chamakh, theo led the league in scoring, nasri looked the league’s best player, and EVERYONE was scoring regularly. despite not having our world cup superstars, arsenal kept pace with “playstation” chelsea. nasri doesn’t have the same space to operate with van persie leading the line. no one does. we’ll see if wenger agrees and addresses that in the summer.
despite not being very fast, nasri can go by just about anyone dribbling. he’s not a playmaker but a dribbler who links play exceptionally well, is a very descent passer, can score goals from nothing, and he tracks back in defense. unlike most, i would hate to lose a player with his skill set, let alone lose him to a rival.
@highburyterracesteve, why not make him CAPTAIN? That would be a classic Wenger move.
Sell Cesc, and make Nasri Captain!
Nasri and Arshavin are the type of players we NEED in the team. But they need to be surrounded by other players who challenge them for a place in the team, and motivate them to be their best.
If you subtract the likes of Cesc & Nasri… and don’t bring in PROVEN players of a HIGH caliber… we are DOOMED. We would fall out of the Top 4 … no questions asked.
Even if we bring in players, it will take time to gel… and given our penchant for selling players after long protracted Summer sagas…. leaving us little or no time to buy players to replace the star(s) going out… (is that on purpose?!)… it leaves us F*cked.
Nasri’s value might be at a high point.
If you are a SELLING TEAM, who want to make profit over winning, you SELL HIM NOW. If you are a team trying to win trophies, its not even a consideration. You build on what you have with additional talent, and focus on fixing perceived holes in the team.
Since Arsenal rarely attempt to fix the problems! I don’t expect us to do it now. It would be refreshing though, wouldn’t it?
@highburyterracesteve, why not make him CAPTAIN? That would be a classic Wenger move.
Sell Cesc, and make Nasri Captain!
Nasri and Arshavin are the type of players we NEED in the team. But they need to be surrounded by other players who challenge them for a place in the team, and motivate them to be their best.
If you subtract the likes of Cesc & Nasri… and don’t bring in PROVEN players of a HIGH caliber… we are DOOMED. We would fall out of the Top 4 … no questions asked.
Even if we bring in players, it will take time to gel… and given our penchant for selling players after long protracted Summer sagas…. leaving us little or no time to buy players to replace the star(s) going out… (is that on purpose?!)… it leaves us F*cked.
Nasri’s value might be at a high point.
If you are a SELLING TEAM, who want to make profit over winning, you SELL HIM NOW. If you are a team trying to win trophies, its not even a consideration. You build on what you have with additional talent, and focus on fixing perceived holes in the team.
Since Arsenal rarely attempt to fix the problems! I don’t expect us to do it now. It would be refreshing though, wouldn’t it?
DAG, having watched every match this season except the final one at Fulham, I have to say that your review of ALL the various crumbling points this past season is majestic in its breadth and its depth. Wow…..
As those matches showed, and as many have noted, the team was amazingly callow. “Rudderless” is an apt description and we really did flatter to deceive, as they say. Much of our being in “contention” (and sorry I have to agree with Vibe here on this one….) was due to United’s very poor first half and Chelsea’s almost inexplicable loss of confidence in the middle of the season. Those teams were somewhat “rudderless” in those periods (as was ManCity almost throughout the entire season) yet still managed to pull it together and finish above us. IMO, there was not a single GREAT team this season in the PL, but at least those teams all found a measure of solidity (esp. in their defensive ranks) where we did not…..
We’ve had threads on “Life after Cesc” and our playing formations and whether or not we’re going to see a major revamp of the squad and they all point to the notion that our team has some serious issues. Many of the longer term, more jaundiced observers argue that, no matter how we parse it, little will fundamentally change as long as one man (Arsene Wenger) is in charge.
I actually believe it runs deeper than that. As long as our financial strategy eschews debt AND until we find a quorum of top players who are committed to winning at Arsenal I think we are somewhat trapped–perhaps in the “Groundhog Day” scenario that others mention. If Champions League football (for financial reasons) is the payoff for the club, then CL football as a venue for players to audition for the “bigger” clubs would also be natural. With the season finally (mercifully) over we are right to fear that many of our better players (and some of the worse ones) will be testing the market to see if they can find greener pastures.
Personally, I feel ready. Let’s evaluate the assets and see what we can get. We have costs (the remaining value of each player’s contract) and whatever the player gives us, tangibly and less so on the pitch. For me, leadership and commitment to making something happen at Arsenal is (very) important, and some players are simply worth more (or less) than their “value” on the open market. Even though we may not be able to (financially) compete with the clubs above us it’s high time that we make the right moves and create something that has a more solid, tangible core moving forward.
Before the season began I thought we needed the stars to align if we were to do better than our usual level. For a short while a few fell into place, but they shot spectacularly askew very quickly. I also thought that this would be a transitional year where (hopefully) new leaders would emerge to supplant our best player and captain (during his prison sentence). On this front, I feel major disappointment. We’ve had some individual successes (Nasri’s early season, Wilshere, RVPs 2nd half, Sneezy perhaps) but nothing that feels like the emergence of true leadership. We’ll see what happens over the summer, but at this point I can’t picture having any higher aspirations for the season to come….
I don’t want to hear Wenger’s non-sense… don’t talk.
Let the players talk about leaving… the numbers wanting out are growing daily…
Just ACT. Do something.
Sell the players that want out.
Denilson and Bendtner should be easy to do, quickly.
Arshavin is reportedly training with Zenit St.Pete while home for National duty… OK, take what you can get for him. I think he’s very good at times, but he hasn’t worked out, partly because of the shite that surrounds him. (my opinion)… if other players can’t be half-assed to give great effort, it becomes contagious.
Let’s take ManU as an example. Won the league & in the CL Final, with one of the best defenses… There Keeper is solid, but 40… so COMMON SENSE says you have to upgrade, make a move …
They are reported to be about to sign a Keeper.
FAST. QUICK. Getting what needs to be done immediately.
None of the BULLSHIT about transfers don’t happen overnight, blah blah blah…
I’ll quote POISON… “I want action tonite. Satisfaction all night.”
Arsene. You want the masses to put down the torches, and stop with the questions about why you did or didn’t do this, that and the other… have a PLAN… and ACT ON IT. RAPIDO. :skeleton:
@stag133, oh. and Evra openly courting Nasri … Nasri to United!
Would Arsenal sell Nasri to ManU?
I mean, hey, if the money is right…. I think Arsenal would sell anybody to any team.
think of the profit!
@stag133, oh. and Evra openly courting Nasri … Nasri to United!
Would Arsenal sell Nasri to ManU?
I mean, hey, if the money is right…. I think Arsenal would sell anybody to any team.
think of the profit!
I don’t want to hear Wenger’s non-sense… don’t talk.
Let the players talk about leaving… the numbers wanting out are growing daily…
Just ACT. Do something.
Sell the players that want out.
Denilson and Bendtner should be easy to do, quickly.
Arshavin is reportedly training with Zenit St.Pete while home for National duty… OK, take what you can get for him. I think he’s very good at times, but he hasn’t worked out, partly because of the shite that surrounds him. (my opinion)… if other players can’t be half-assed to give great effort, it becomes contagious.
Let’s take ManU as an example. Won the league & in the CL Final, with one of the best defenses… Their Keeper is solid, but 40… so COMMON SENSE says you have to upgrade, make a move …
They are reported to be about to sign a Keeper.
FAST. QUICK. Getting what needs to be done immediately.
None of the BULLSHIT about transfers don’t happen overnight, blah blah blah…
I’ll quote POISON… “I want action tonite. Satisfaction all night.”
Arsene. You want the masses to put down the torches, and stop with the questions about why you did or didn’t do this, that and the other… have a PLAN… and ACT ON IT. RAPIDO. :skeleton:
I am seriously relieved to hear Wenger talking about being busy in the summer. When a kernel doesn’t pop, you lob it in the trash — so off you go Bendtner, Denilson… fill in usual suspects here.
The only reason the crowd isn’t baying for Wenger’s head is because he is half correct in saying that the basis for a team is there. We managed to get to near the finish line and stay in the hunt for 2/3 of the seasons. But it was blindingly clear to all and sundry that there was no deep bench to see us through.
If Wenger fails to offload the deadwood this summer, the crowd is seriously going to turn en masse. (Do we really need to give ‘human panic button” Squillaci another season to ‘mature’?) But he also needs to buy a few untypical Wenger players. No midgets.
@macmac007,
“I’m taking my cheque book to the Euros”
Wenger in 2008.
What he actually said was this:
“I’m here with my cheque book If I see something I like….I don’t rule anything out.”
“If I fall in love with somebody, why not, but we all know the big players. What we know about big championships nowadays is that we don’t discover players any more in big tournaments.
“You expect Cristiano Ronaldo, Thierry Henry and Franck Ribéry to stand out, but I’ll have an eye on Mario Gomez with Germany, [Karim] Benzema for France and [Luka] Modric in the Croatia team.”
The statement today is a little more concrete than saying I might do somethig like he said in the Euros.
@DaAdminGooner,
But I guess that would only bring us to the pertinent question … what on earth was Arsene “Nero” Wenger doing commentating at Euro 2008?? His club was literalliy on fire, Hleb, Flamini, Gilberto and Diarra were out. Fabregas, Gallas and Toure were flirting with the exit door and Adebayor was half way out.
So what on earth was he doing there …. was his 6.5 M a year salary (the second highest in Europe), not enough for him that he had to turn tricks in Switzerland to make ends meet?
Or was he just being an arrogant, egotistical French clown who doesnt give a f%$#?
So here’s the thing – and its for all of you on about what Wenger says – what do you want him to say? What should he be saying to placate you? Assuming you were the only one he had to placate.
@DaAdminGooner,
While we occasionally react in frustration, disbelief and side-splitting laughter at Wenger’s words, I don’t think anyone takes what he says all that seriously.
What he *does*, on the other hand….
@DaAdminGooner, I don’t care what Wenger SAYS… because its all BULLSHIT …
DO SOMETHING, then tell me about it.
@DaAdminGooner, I don’t care what Wenger SAYS… because its all BULLSHIT …
DO SOMETHING, then tell me about it.
“The key will be what does Wenger do to address the mental frailty that was so on display”
Well, that’s a tricky one, since the solution would involve jettisoning his egotistical ass out the door and bringing in a new manager.
As Vibe said on the previous thread, he is the problem – the big dopey elephant in the room, coming out with pure shite very single week, and managing a bunch of players who evidently have no faith in him whatsoever when it comes the crunch. Denilson is a clown, but his comments were illuminating and they just substantiate what a few of us have been saying for years ; this squad is rudderless and has no sense of clarity at all. They love the jostling for position stage at the start of the race, but when the bell rings (before even) they take on the role of a glorifed pace-maker and drop out of contention.
“Know your role Arsenal”.
How sad.
Good summary, thank you. Of course, some of us will argue that the club was never seriously in contention for anything more than the Carling Cup. And that the loss in the Final was less the beginning of the slide and more just a reflection of a club whose record to that point rested on a foundation of mediocrity around them. After all, as addressed above, we had worse results this season than the one against B’ham. That one just happened to be shiny.
This season? To borrow from Robyn Hitchcock: it was always just another bubble that was bound to burst.
@vibe4arsenal,
well, you and I would disgaree – you aren’t one point off or within 2-3 points and not in contention. By being in that position by it’s very nature that is in contention. Whether they win it or not that is another story.
They were in contention for the EPL title for all purposes of discussion through the Blackburn match.
@DaAdminGooner,
If contention is defined as ‘mathematical possibility’ then, of course, Arsenal was in contention for 98% of the season. Much of that due to attrition behind them and underperformance in front of them. But, yes, technically, in contention.
But for me contention has more to do with playing consistently winning football and performing like a team that could actually win something. Less of a technical gauge and more of what you see and feel from the club.
By the latter measurement, my measurement, Arsenal never felt in contention beyond late Fall/Early Winter. Being generous. Annus horribilis, of course, is ‘terrible year’. Not ‘rough couple of months’.
@vibe4arsenal,
Well by your measurement wouldn’t they have been in contention up until the Brigmingham loss when at that point they had only lost 4 times at that point. Chelsea had 5 or 6 United 2 (but lots of draws). Draws and losses were more prevalent then wins from then on in.
I would agree the FA Cup seemed like a pipe dream – when you can’t do in Leeds or Ipswich town in one leg then you are likely not to go far.
@DaAdminGooner,
Nah. Just look at the three results you posted from September and November. From early on, it was easy to spot this was the same old crap we’d seen three years running. Probably worse. (And that’s how it turned out.)
Once you’ve seen the first three Nightmare on Elm Street movies, do you really need to wait until the end of the 4th to know Freddy doesn’t win?