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Arsene’s next reclamation project. The case for Yoann Gourcuff

By Michael Price
June 27, 2012
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The name Yoann Gourcuff brings out polarizing views among football fans. Some consider him to be an excellent passer of the ball while others think of him as an injury plagued, introvert who never deserved to be consider Zinidine Zidane’s successor.

Gourcuff has had an up and down career one that has been hampered by injuries and questions about his mental state. However all this has been mixed with moments of absolute brilliance where his quality in central midfield has made lofty comparisons to French greats (like Zidane) seem fair.

Yoann as a player is an accomplished passer of the ball and has over the years primarily operated in a 4-2-3-1 system as the central midfielder. He has greatly developed his passing range and can seamlessly go from switching play to providing a key pass down the middle. For an attacking midfielder, Gourcuff does score a lot of goals and his dead ball ability is excellent. However throughout his career he has been dogged by allegations of having a poor work rate as well as being mentally fragile. More recently however, his poor injury record has left him with fewer opportunities that have greatly affected his confidence and his overall game.

With that being said, can Arsene revive Gourcuff’s career? Or better yet, should he? That is a question a lot of Gooners seem to be asking themselves this summer as Gourcuff’s name has once been linked to Arsenal as a possible AM option.

Tactically, Gourcuff would fit seamlessly into right midfield in the 4-3-3 system at Arsenal similar to how he has operated for France at an international level. His versatility should also greatly impress Arsene as he could play anywhere in central midfield (has played at defensive midfield as well). While his biggest success has been playing central in a primarily 4-2-3-1 system he would invariably have similar success in our system due to the fluidity of our structure especially on attacking designs.

The attacking midfield position in itself however will be an intriguing position for Arsenal this coming season as it could easily be seen as one of our weaker or stronger areas depending on your perspective. Rosicky who primarily played in the position last year cannot by himself be expected to carry the load for a full season. Ramsey’s poor form on the other hand will raise doubts as to his place in the squad. Jack who has by many touted to take on the ‘Cesc’ role is coming back from a long term injury himself and as such will need to be bedded into the squad slowly. And finally, The Ox could also be given opportunities in central midfield but Arsene will be careful to limit playing time based on age and experience. All this means that while there is possible depth in the position, a strong case can be made for needing veteran reinforcements thus paving the way for Yoann Gourcuff. Our overall lack of goals from midfield also means that he would be a welcome addition to the squad.

However if Arsene does consider bringing in Gourcuff to add to the fold, he may not necessarily get the game time he needs to bring his confidence back up. It’s a similar concern many fans share about Chamakh as they feel like he could have done better with more game time. With there being questions surrounding his fragile mental state and our depth in midfield, he may also find it hard to break into the first team and make an impact.

There are also concerns surrounding his poor work rate and attitude. Although Arsene has never been one to shy away from signing and moulding tougher characters in the past, Yoann may be seen as a player that is at this point too broken (emotionally and physically) to fix. Ultimately the biggest concern surrounding Yoann are his injury problems. Coming off ankle surgery last summer, it has not felt like he has fully recovered as yet. Even Blanc (current French manager) in his assessment of Yoann after cutting him from his final Euro squad noted that too many question marks surrounded Gourcuff’s fitness levels.

To me, Gourcuff is a fascinating case and is a player that I am extremely fond of. His passing range, eye for the key pass and his ability to take on defenders is a joy to behold. However his injury record means he may never be able to get back to his old self.

Regardless of his poor form, I personally would love to have him at Arsenal as he would give us depth at AM without needing to break the bank freeing funds for a possible ‘star’ signing in a more worrying area (DM). His versatility in midfield would also be an asset and his mature reading of the game means we would have someone in midfield that could control games (something our young midfield has lacked in close games) and see them through.

I do however worry about his mental fragility and with his injury record; he may have a difficult challenge coping with the physical nature of the Premier League, one that has not been too kind to a number of our own players. While his attitude may be a concern, I have confidence that Arsene would be able to rectify this and that Gourcuff should be better able to integrate himself at Arsenal with a big French base (along with possible Chamakh still in the fold).

Watching France whimper out of the Euros I could not help but feel like France sorely missed having a creative hub unlocking defenses. Someone that would let Benzema stay in more forwards positions while allowing Ribery to attack on the flanks as opposed to trying to play off Benzema due to a lack of attacking options. That creative hub was meant to be Gourcuff and while some believe that his time has passed, I hope he is able to regain his form not just for the sake of France but for all of Europe.

And with that being said, I do believe Arsene is the right man to help revive Gourcuff’s career. Yoann thrived under a manager that believed in him (Blanc) and I can see Arsene having the same (if not greater) impact. Whether all this does actually pan out is not for me to speculate but I do know one thing; Gourcuff with the ball at his feet is like an artist (a flawed artist) and watching him go through his reads and directing play is a beautiful sight, one that has sadly not been witnessed in a long time. So it is my honest hope that Arsenal fans everywhere are once again able to enjoy Yoann Gourcuff the way we he deserves to be.

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27 comments

  1. Caribkid 30 June, 2012 at 00:38 Log in to Reply

    @Joshuad

    I absolutely love Dembele. Very difficult to dispossess and just ghosts by people with little or no effort. Excellent vision and will play all over the MF and even up front. Think he has the potential to be a truly world class player if given the proper tools around him.

    Way better than Wilshere at this moment in time.

  2. joshuad 29 June, 2012 at 20:14 Log in to Reply

    dag, you really should look into improving the text boxes for the replies. it’s incredibly difficult to read what you’re writing without a ridiculous amount of box manipulation. it used to be that you could expand the text box but every time i try it, whether on my mac or pc, i get a fatal error message. it used to work. i’m sure you, or whom ever manages the site, can get it to work again. just a thought but it will make visits to the site a bit more pleasant.

  3. joshuad 29 June, 2012 at 08:26 Log in to Reply

    carib, i like your post. i’ve been lobbying for dembele since sparky signed him. he was my player of the tournament at the 2008 olympics (ahead of messi, pato, rossi, aguero, ramires, giovinco, etc.) simply put, he’s always been too good for fulham and had true star power.

    the beauty of dembele is he checks all the blocks. he’s about 25 years old, about 6 foot, great vision, great passing, great dribbling, great motor, has two years of bpl experience, and unlike gourcuff, he does the defensive dirty work. most importantly, dembele’s got the guile to make everybody better, including van persie. ramsey and dempsey don’t have that ability (guile). hleb and bergkamp had it. rosicky and jack might but they both have question marks concerning their health.

    one criticism of dembele is he doesn’t score enough goals. it’s the same bs criticism once aimed at hleb. arsenal were so dangerous when hleb was moved centrally, it didn’t matter that hleb wasn’t the goal scorer. hleb was the puppet master, pulling strings like gepetto. dembele would give us a similar presence and, unlike hleb, dembele can score. like hleb, he can also create and his dribbles collapse defenses.

    bottom line, i believe dembele’s addition this year would be more significant than arteta was last year. arsenal would be enjoyable to watch again. remember those days? i think van persie would enjoy his soccer if he didn’t have to do everything every game, but had help. my fear is that wenger is trying to save that spot for wilshere. no way can jack play 60 games after sitting for an entire year. even if his ankle holds up, his body isn’t used to the banging and he’ll injure something else. we’ll see what wenger does.

    • stag133 29 June, 2012 at 14:16 Log in to Reply

      @joshuad, I think the Puppet Master is available! Hleb could be signed for a bag of donuts!

      and its NOT POSSIBLE for Dembele’s addition to be more significant than Arteta’s last season.

      the ONLY match we won ALL SEASON without Arteta, was the last game of the season.
      which we struggled in … were lucky to win.

      • joshuad 29 June, 2012 at 20:06 Log in to Reply

        @stag133, ol’ “bag of donuts” could never play for arsenal again. his departure to barcelona played a significant role in dismantling that fine ’07-’08 team that ship has sailed.

        as for the dembele/arteta comparison, i do believe dembele could make that significant an impact. arsenal’s play isn’t expansive or dynamic. it’s not even remotely attractive anymore. we just happened to have a bad ass leading our line this season. van persie is playing for a “big team”. no way should he, alone, bear the burden of arsenal’s success. it’s always great to be the hero and save the day but it’s nice, if your having a rough day, to pass the ball to someone else to be the hero. that’s the beauty of a big team.

        • stag133 29 June, 2012 at 22:45

          @joshuad, I don’t think Dembele is that type of player… I think he’s a good player, don’t get me wrong, but not sure if he would be the player that makes the team into a legit offensive force again.

          and I totally agree, that we play a shit brand of football… its not even pretty anymore…
          without an incredible season from RVP… we’d be….??? who knows!

    • HighburyTerraceSteve 29 June, 2012 at 21:20 Log in to Reply

      @joshuad, I haven’t watched Dembele as closely
      as you, but he reminds me of a stronger, less injured Abou Diaby…..

      Thoughts?

      Seems to me that AW is gonna give Diaby one last season to try and
      get fit and contribute before the final write off…..

      Arteta was so valuable because he could keep things ticking over at the back,
      making very few turnovers in the process. Call it experience (or cheating)
      but he has a knack for “getting fouled” when his teammates would hang him out
      to dry with a 50-50 pass….. Both Dembele and Diaby don’t seem to have this
      same attribute, maybe lacking “experience” or possessing too much confidence
      that they can work their way out of trouble….

      Looking forward to Pirlo, De Rossi, Xavi and Sergio B doing likewise on
      Sunday…..

      GDC for the final?

  4. stag133 29 June, 2012 at 04:02 Log in to Reply

    wow.
    Italy SHOCK Germany.
    The crazy star Balotelli… can take you to the stars with his talents, and bury you with his antics.
    He could easily get a red in the Finals!

    Italy played so well defensively… compact and really organized…

    They could be Spain… no doubt about it.

  5. Caribkid 28 June, 2012 at 17:52 Log in to Reply

    Do we actually need another reclamation project in Gourcruff and even though he has had a poor two seasons they are still going to want silly money for him?

    We already have four reclamation projects in Diaby, Wilshere, Rosicky and Ramsey. certainly don’t need any more.

    Since we lost out on Kagawa, we certainly need to look at Dembele, Dempsey and Siguurdson as players who can thrive in that role.

  6. stag133 28 June, 2012 at 14:06 Log in to Reply

    Spain.
    Beautiful football. Pretty. Nice to watch. Pleasing ot the eye. (well, not yesterday, but generally speaking)
    They are the best team in the world at the moment.
    No doubt.

    What’s the reason?
    DEFENSE.
    DEFENSE?
    Yes, DEFENSE.

    They have not allowed a GOAL in a KNOCKOUT MATCH since 2006?
    When it matters, they play the D.

    So, why have we added strikers to a team that let in 49 goals last season, and not addressed the big issue?
    I’d say, probably because Wenger doesn’t give a shite about defense, and hasn’t for a long long time… (if ever)

    • George 28 June, 2012 at 16:52 Log in to Reply

      @stag133,
      If we score more goals than they can score against us we will win, oui?

      • stag133 28 June, 2012 at 17:28 Log in to Reply

        @George, yes, in Wenger’s world. you are thinking like Le Prof.
        Take a look at League and CL winners in the past?? 20 years…
        There’s a common thread… solid defense… and usually the BEST defense.

        but the 4-3 games should be fun to watch, win or lose.

  7. joshuad 28 June, 2012 at 05:18 Log in to Reply

    gourcuff is talented, but he’s too damn lazy. watched him at milan and thought he might be special. then watched him for two years at bordeaux when the chamakh rumors started. no thank you.
    anyone who watched france at the last world cup didn’t see an anaomaly. that was the real gourcuff. we even talked about him on this site during that time. he impressed no one.

  8. Kiwi 28 June, 2012 at 02:53 Log in to Reply

    Well it’s the end of June and we’ve seen Wenger sign not only Podolski but also Giroud – both strikers, one more flexible with positional interchangability than the other who is much more the classic forward.

    What’s with Wenger signing tall classic forwards? Adebayor, Bendtner, Chamakh and now Giroud. Clearly it’s intentional but never in alignment with the team’s playing M.O. There is no answer to that one.

    Hopefully Giroud has a better alround game than his predecessors. Adebayor lacked focus, Bendtner was too slow, Chamakh quickly collapsed under EPL pressure. Can Giroud carve out a useful role? We’ll see.

    Is Giroud/Podolski an appeasement for a departing Van Persie? Yes quite possibly, but no one knows yet. Even Wenger likely doesn’t know. I’m guessing he’s playing the same game he did with Vieira, Henry, Flamini, Hleb, Fabregas and Nasri. He seems to avoid the topic with the player and let it ‘play out’. He throws a few strategic comments to the press asserting his ‘belief’ in the player and his commitment to the club and lets the player/agent work it out. So yes Van Persie may stay or go.

    I’m struggling to recall a time when we had such a bevy of players needing to be released. Maybe the last time was when Wenger first arrived and the club had to shed the dross. We have a lot of dross. A serious amount of dross and on really good money so they are hard to move. Once a player earns 60,000 pounds per week he adjusts his thinking and believes he is a 60,000 pound p.w. player and his next move should be at least as good. Believe me – that is the human condition. So Wenger’s remuneration equalisation strategy has lumbered the club with a lot of overpaid players who are nowhere near good enough to win things for Arsenal FC.

    Is the recruitment of Podolski and Giroud necessary? The answer to that is yes, I have been saying for several years that our attack has been crap. Nowhere near good enough to score the goals our attacking M.O. demands. So yes, we needed restocking. We also need cleansing – rid the dross. Giroud, RvP, Podolski, Gervinho, Walcott, Ox and Ryo would be an impovement on 2011/12.

    The problem I have is that no matter who signs for Arsenal FC there is the rather large questionmark in my mind as to whether Wenger has the wherewithal to recalibrate a winning team. I fear he doesn’t, I fear his mind is too messed up with romantic notions of what ‘good football’ is. Winning is not romantic, winning demands a level of pragmatism, only once you pay homage to the altar of ‘what is needed’ can you ascend the steps to ‘what is desired’.

    • stag133 28 June, 2012 at 13:59 Log in to Reply

      @Kiwi, while I am happy to get Podolski & Giroud, I agree its just as important to remove players from the equation!

      but the real issue, is still the DEFENSE. You know, the one that let in 49 goals last season.
      we have not addressed this in any way, shape or form…
      if that isn’t fixed, we can add 10 forwards, it won’t matter.

      • seattle gooner 28 June, 2012 at 17:00 Log in to Reply

        @stag133, I think part of it is coaching though. Mertesacker was a good defender in Germany. Vermaelen was a good defender for Ajax. Djourou is acceptable as a 4th choice CB. I rate Kocielny better than you do, but that’s just my opinion. The thing they havce in common is that once they come to Arsenal, suddenly none of them can play defense. How much of that is down to coaching or lack thereof and practice? I think quite a bit of it is. Hopefully Bould will sort that out, but I imagine he is just going to be Pat Rice 2.0.

        • stag133 28 June, 2012 at 17:36

          @seattle gooner, SG.
          Do you really think that you can “coach up” players to that level?
          We aren’t talking a few soft/bad goals for a few years… this has been ongoing.
          And it was at its WORST last season, with 49 allowed.

          No thanks on Mertesacker. He is slow, akward, and petite.
          Vermaelen, maybe can improve. I think he’s potentially our best.
          Djourou… I just haven’t seen him play well in about 2 years.
          And Koscielny… bad decisions, and miscues…

          What Arsenal lack are that TALL, STRONG, PHYSICAL Center Back…
          Sol Campbell, Tony Adams… defense first… an anchor at the back.

          Wenger goes for mobile, offensive-minded, smurfs…

          I like Steve Bould. He was a solid, no non-sense, defense first defender…
          and I hope some of that carries over…
          but you can’t make chicken salad, out of chicken shit.
          Our defenders are what they are… not very good defensively.
          (my opinion, of course, and our worst defensive season in many years sort of bears out that opinion!)

        • seattle gooner 28 June, 2012 at 19:59

          @stag133, Yes, I think players can be “coached up” at that level. And I do think that Arsenal’s system has something to do with it. Mertesacker does play for a good national team (not at the Euros this year but he is coming off a long injury) and played well in the German league. Vermaelen played well in the Dutch league and again is a started for teh National team in Belgium. Djourou has never impressed me a ton, but it’s hard to find a 4th choice CB who is better and there have been stretches where he started and looked pretty good. I think Kocielny is the best potential starting CB (I know you don’t agree)- he has range, tackles well and I’ve seen him bail out Arsenal and France with smart tackles on numerous occasions.

          All of these players played well in other leagues. Then they come to Arsenal and can’t deal with simple headers on set plays. I think that’s the system. On top of that, add a holding midfielder who thinks he’s the second coming of Zidane and you have some definite defesnive issues. And I’m not making excuses, since our defense was poor at times last season, but take out the Blackburn and Man United games when the team was in turmoil because Wenger counld’t get his shit together and that’s 12 goals off the total. That’s a big differnece.

        • stag133 28 June, 2012 at 22:48

          @seattle gooner, ummm. yeah. you can’t pick and choose your games where we played well, and didn’t!… it doesn’t work that way…
          we’ve had poor defense for about 5 years.

          I hope Bould can change the culture at Arsenal, but I don’t he’ll have a major impact on what Wenger believes and what he does.

  9. seattle gooner 27 June, 2012 at 18:18 Log in to Reply

    Poor work rate and injury prone? No thanks, I’d say passing is the best option. We have enough players who are consistently Diaby’d already, and if his work rate is poor in Ligue 1, he doesn’t stand a chance in the EPL.

  10. stag133 27 June, 2012 at 16:27 Log in to Reply

    I think Arsene and Arsenal do about 90% of their scouting in France.
    Maybe its time to start looking at other places!

  11. HighburyTerraceSteve 27 June, 2012 at 16:25 Log in to Reply

    Joel (and DAG)….

    I appreciate the reviews of the French players (from those who have watched them more) and I’d like to see a similar piece on M’Vila after all the back and forth on the previous thread. The more I hear, however, the deader the deal sounds…..

    Like others, I think we’ve got a (very) long way to go to replace Cesc Fabregas, who (I would guess) is just about odds-on to be involved in the scoring today vs Portugal. What a player, (though, of course, he’s dead to me now….), and it’s a crying shame that things are as they are and that we appear to be a selling club, or at least one which has big troubles holding onto our best players.

    Is Gorcuff the answer? Don’t we already have a talented but injured French MF on our books? Diaby (and Jack Wilshere and Tomas Rosicky), if healthy, has some ability and, I think, will be given every opportunity to show it. Alex Song has an eye for RVP’s runs, as does Theo Walcott (and Gervinho). And maybe the most impressive passing in that vein last season was done by the OX when he got his little run of matches (I’m thinking Blackburn and ManU at home….) All told, it makes me think there is just about zero chance that we’re in for Gorcuff. Although, between him and Giroud, it might make my wife (who likes pretty boys and studied French in college) more interested in our matches…..

    It’s interesting that we’re talking up all these French players right after another little cameo by their disjointed Nat’l team. For me, M’Vila, Cabaye (and Koscielny/Lloris) did fine work at the rear while the wingers (and wingbacks) and attacking midfielders and forwards (once again) disappointed. In South Africa, (like Benzema this time….) Gorcuff took ridiculous shots from the center circle or sprayed balls out wide (or out of play) while Diaby did his best to keep things ticking over. Ribery (who works hard) is a “head down” player as is Benzema but they’re used to having (much) better players available (at their club teams) when they finally look up. Potentially better “team” players like Anelka–this time Nasri– unfortunately had that chip on the shoulder which weighed them down…. It may be the nature of Int’l football that players take a more selfish approach, but the French display (alongside the Dutch and English ones–Theo’s vs Sweden being an exception….) have not been much to look at. With Giroud already in the fold maybe it’s time to let Newcastle have their pick of the leftovers (Malouda, Govou, Menez, Deubchy, among others, might all be up for grabs)…. And, while new signings are always fun, our efforts (and financial resources) might be better used in getting our best players under contract (and onto inflated salaries), and then getting everybody healthy and working together….

    But that’s just me…..(DAG is there any chance we could see a thread on the contract extensions which have been made or are being proposed?) For others, the Silly Season should be peaking, with the final Euro matches and the (actual) opening of the transfer window, so maybe more transfer scouting is in order….How much for Motinho or Veloso (both not good enough, IMO) or (if we’re in full on dream-mode….) Oliveira, Nani or Ronaldo?…..

  12. athlon 27 June, 2012 at 12:07 Log in to Reply

    Check this player: Henrik Mkhitaryan. He would be a top signing for us.

  13. Les Gones 27 June, 2012 at 11:58 Log in to Reply

    I don’t understand where this notion comes from –

    allegations of having a poor work rate

    It’s totally wrong. Gourcuff has the best work rate in all the team’s he’s played for, Rennes, Bordeaux and Lyon. You can check the statistics for yourself, on the Ligue1 website or UEFA Champions league. He’s always covered the most distance KM wise – he’s constantly moving, with or without the ball, he’s never static.

    Whether it’s creating space when his side has the ball or closing space, when his side doesn’t have the ball, Gourcuff is always at work.

    I have never understood this perception of him, it’s totally incorrect and it isn’t backed statistically either.

    Gourcuff has a ‘coaching mind’ like his father, if you see the post match interviews in France, you will understand. His vision of football isn’t static, it’s one based on a fast paced one touch passing game, where there is no room for players that lack work rate. Players must be constantly in motion to create intervals/space in the attacking third. It’s very similar to Arsenal’s style of play, which is why there is affinity between Christian Gourcuff and Arsene Wenger.

    Gourcuff would be perfect for Arsenal and I’m saying this as OL supporter. He doesn’t suit the Lyon style of play, we have too many individualistic players (often of South American origin) who prefer to dribble excessively (which kills the space). Gourcuff needs a team which is built upon the collective not individuals and that espouses a one-touch passing game.

    • DaAdminGooner 27 June, 2012 at 12:04 Log in to Reply

      @Les Gones,

      The work rate has more to do I believe with his practice efforts. Also I think the perception of him is based more off of the places where it hasn’t worked out for him.

    • The Realist 27 June, 2012 at 13:39 Log in to Reply

      @Les Gones,
      If you ever actually watched Ligue 1 you would know exactly why people say his work rate is poor. He goes missing in matches for long periods, doesn’t make an effort to get behind the ball and doesn’t tackle much. He is a lazy player and I don’t think he’d do well in the premiership. He would also cost far too much as Lyon would want about £14m for him, and we could probably pick up Dzagoev for £10m and he’s younger and more suited to the prem.

  14. DragonDragon 27 June, 2012 at 11:43 Log in to Reply

    The only way I’d be happy with this if it was a one-year loan with an option to buy at the end. That way, we’d have the chance to cut and run if things aren’t working out.

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