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Can Stan First.

By Michael Price
February 19, 2012
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In two short months Arsenal fans will mark the day that American Stan Kroenke and Kroenke’s company KSE took controlling interest at Arsenal.  In that time can you tell me how many times you’ve seen him at Arsenal? Once, twice maybe?

I look back to last April and there was so much hope and desire that Kroenke’s control of the board would bring a change in how the club approached things. The papers and some sections of fans speculated that Wenger would be given a transfer war chest and a new era of Arsenal propserity would begin. Lot’s of people said that – I wasn’t one of them.

From the day Kroenke came to Arsenal I have been and remain  deeply concerned by his purchase of the club. Given the current state of things, I am more so.

There are glaring issues with the club. From the deals off the pitch to the product on the pitch the club needs some a major refocusing. As it stands thoough we have no idea what Stan plans for this club. We have talked about the previous board under Peter Hill-Wood not providing the appropriate dirction.

With the current state of affairs, the continual slide into oblivion we still remain without so much as a statement of intent from our new owner in the first full year of his tenure, we still appear rudderless and adrift while other teams immediately around us have a clear vision of where they are going and what they are doing.

For those who thought Stan’s leadership would bring some new approach to running the club, it is likely they did not know much about the man they affectionately call ‘silent Stan’. A lot of people pointed to his successful ownership of US sports properties as a hopeful sign he would bring back the winning ways to Arsenal.  As a reminder his company KSE is majority owner of the St. Louis Rams and of the MLS Colorado Rapids, NHL’s Colorado Avalanche and the NBA’s Denver Nuggets. It is also a part in one of the 11 bids currently sitting before Major League Baseball to purchase the LA Dodgers. With all this ownership of clubs and my knowledge of their performance in recent years, I wondered in a piece at I did at the time Stan took control if he could really be an effective owner.  Mark Kizzla of the Denver Post seems to concur as he  once said this about Stan in relationship to his ownership style:

. . . and simply appearing to be cheap (Stan Kroenke’s Avalanche and Nuggets). Isn’t it fair to question whether Kroenke is simply spread too thin in terms of interest with all the teams he has ownership of?

It seems like a fair question. If he has ownership in all these companies and if he is an active owner – where does his attention lie? He seems to have little interest in beefing up the ailing Rams. TheAvalanche Yo-Yo from bottom of their Western conference to around 6th place every other year. The Nuggets always look dangerous but never do too much. The only real winner he has is the Colorado Rapids. And now from his former Rapids and now Stevenage manager comes word that the owner doesn’t care too much for Football. Well, if that shocks you now, I ask why?

Stan’s approach is a marked difference to that of Liverpool owner John Henry who also owns MLB’s Boston Red Sox. Henry has been engaged and active even from a distance. Speaking early in the season of his support of manager Kenny Dalglish, talking about the plans for the team and providing  vision of where the club is going. Additionally, when it looked like Liverpool were going adrift and off course with the Suarez affair, Henry jumped right in, slapped people around and ordered apologies from all parties. Look,  I don’t expect  Stan to be as open and vocal as Henry, a simple statement of intent on what he wants the club to be and the direction he wants the club to take in, would suffice. In an interest in the club he runs would be nice. Hell, he basically promised at the Q&A this season we would see more of him in London, I guess we didn’t know that it would be in the form of the St. Louis Rams of the NFL visiting London 3 times over the next 3 seasons. Oh joy.

Let’s be clear, we are rudderless. Our team is slowly turning into something other than its former great self.  There seems to be a perception that the satus quo in how we are run and operated is fine.  It is not. The product on the pitch is crap, the manager seems devoid of any idea on how to fix the rot, the commercial deals we have are a joke, and players are paid far beyond what they deserve for continual under performance. Through it all the one thing that remains the same is the owner and board fleecing the fans while do nothing about the state of the club.

Last season this team had a collapse of epic proportions in the final 11 matches of the season. It was clear then that changes needed to be made. For the most part they were not and let’s be clear we were the laughing stock of the league when we sold Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri and wound up getting nothing in return. Yes, the players we;ve got have been okay but they haven’t been of the calibre this club needs or deserves.Word is that deals for better players were submitted, one was even a done deal but the Cesc deal taking so long scuppered that. If all that is true than the owner needs to step up and beat the heads in of the CEO, the contract negotiators and the manger for letting this happen. He hasn’t. As a matter of fact his silent approach to ownership seems to me to be a case of Nero fiddling whilst Rome burns.. As it stands noone knows exactly what Stan thought of the end of last season or what is going on this season. All we had was Ivan Gazidis (I don’t like him either) trying to placate us all early in the season by telling us all it sucked. Way to catch the clue bus there Ivan. It sucked, we know that Ivan.

What is also very worrying to me the most that the lack of engagment, vision, and direction is effectively letting Wenger off the hook for the issues engulfing the team right now.  At the start of the season we heard from the club that players WILL be coming in. That wasn’t entirely untrue but as I just mentioned the players they have brought in don’t address the issues we have had as as a team. As we have failed this season Wenger has been allowed to fall into old patterns of denial without so much as anyone to questions to. If we had an engaged ownership, there should be a call from Stan to basically let Wenger know this is unacceptable, but as we can all guess it’s not  very likely not going to happen. In a very good piece (here) from Tim Clark, he believes and I concur that Stan simply hoped that Wenger would work his magic at the club with out any involvement from Stan and the pockets would continue to be lined.  Well, as we can see without leadership from the top, Wenger’s magic is failing.

Stan was preferred on the board as the eventual majority stakeholder because he was a like minded individual to the board. They too provided no direction, no vision and were more intent on taking money out of the club than putting it in. To our board and now to our current ownership we are merely a means to an end – lining their pockets.

When Stan took control, I never expected much to change. After many protestations, Peter hill-Wood and Danny Fiszman’s relented to Stan being on the board. In time it seems they found someone kindered to their own mindset of how the club should be run. It made sense then when Usmanov made his move that Kroneke was given a seat on the board as opposed to the Russian. I don’t think the board would’ve allowed him a seat on the board if it didn’t in some way think he was going to carry on the traditions of prudence at the club. That being said of course, much like the debt issue, once in charge Kroneke is free to do as he pleases – to an extent. There is the issue of Usmanov collecting shares to get to the magic 30%. (His last purchase of 1 share was this past week for £16,500 I believe which basically puts the club value at £1.2 billion)

The sentiment and goodwill Stan seemed to enjoy from fan groups is gone. While they were originally  encouraged by statements to honour the traditions of the club. the lack of direction and involvement has effectively wiped that away.

Admittedly, as much I felt Stan was wrong for Arsenal, I saw some positives and quietly held out hopes my gut reaction was wrong. However, the negatives that were clear to many when he bought the club are only magnified yet again as the club continues to falter. Any hope I think I had hope for a change of direction is gone. The issues have been made worse and the owners inactivity speaks volumes about what his real motives are.

This article isn’t an attempt to say that Stan is the only issue at Arsenal nor is he the chief issue but as someone who has taken NO ROLE whatsoever since he took control, he and the rest of formaldehyde smelling board are responsible for the operating environment that has allowed this to go on. There are other issues and over the next week we will look at them. But I firmly believe that nothing will get better at Arsenal without getting in ownership or stewardship with someone who actually knows, likes and wants to participate in this great football club.

I hardly ever start or join ‘actions’ but I am no longer willing to sit by and idly watch the owner let our club keel over like the Bismark. No, I won’t be asking everyone to bring bin bags to the Emirates but I won’t stop writing about Stan’s misguided ownership. Yeah it won’t do much but it will be damn well cathartic for me.

STAN OUT NOW!!!

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39 comments

  1. HighburyTerraceSteve 25 February, 2012 at 18:53 Log in to Reply

    Whoa….

    Anybody watching Man City-Blackburn? Not much Arsenal interest given that Nasri, Clichy, Kolo Toure (not to mention Adebayor….) aren’t playing…..

    But speaking of (former England and) Spurs, they sure made an upgrade bringing in Freidel and demoting Alice the Goon (Gomes) and before him Paul Robinson who just made the biggest goalkeeping blunder (maybe) since Vito kicked at the ball he could’ve grabbed and watch it bounce into our net at Olympiakos….

  2. HighburyTerraceSteve 25 February, 2012 at 14:34 Log in to Reply

    Something is rotten in North London….Wenger lying right down until the moment the loan deal is done. WTF? I guess we had to force Zenit to take over his entire paycheck….

    This will certainly get buried by a NLD preview, but keeping on topic, it IS interesting that Kroenke wants to see just how sharp the tines are on the pitchforks….A bad result should do the trick….and while there should be some rallying around the old (hated) enemy, we simply require results tomorrow and at Liverpool or the (pointless) run out vs Milan will be even uglier than what it represents in itself….

    Anyhow, nothing to do but hope for the best and watch it play out….Hopefully a little company in the GDC tomorrow. (No shirt yet, DAG, but I’m very excited–thanks, of course….)

    • stag133 25 February, 2012 at 16:19 Log in to Reply

      @HighburyTerraceSteve, something has been rotten in Highbury for about 5 years. Its not new.

  3. DaAdminGooner 24 February, 2012 at 22:45 Log in to Reply

    OFFICIAL:

    Andrei Arshavin has rejoined Zenit St. Petersburg on loan until end of season.

    Zenit agree to pay £1 million loan fee and Andrei’s wages for the rest of the season. Deal comes with an option to buy.

    Not questioning the deal. Andrei clearly past it and can’t be arsed, what I am questioning is why wasn’t this done in January when the club had time to find a replacement

    • Fred 25 February, 2012 at 00:07 Log in to Reply

      @DaAdminGooner,

      Because the club has absolutely NO intention of replacing him. Selling him
      in January would have had fans calling for a replacement at least.

      • stag133 25 February, 2012 at 00:19 Log in to Reply

        @Fred, pretty much sums it up Fred.
        This way, there is no chance we “sign a replacement”.
        Good Luck Andrei. Hope your manager plays you in your actual best position.

        • George 25 February, 2012 at 08:30

          @stag133,
          Regardless of what position he plays in, he still has that issue with his work rate, when he loses the ball he laughs and just stands there

        • stag133 25 February, 2012 at 16:18

          @George, many strikers have “low work rates”… its their nature… they are poachers.
          I remember RVP walking around the pitch in the 2nd half of a few matches this year, Henry did the same…
          Arshavin was completely mis-used by Wenger. He didn’t play well the last year or so, but its partially on Wenger, who wants to take on players, and completely change who they are, and where they play. Sometimes it works, sometimes NOT.

        • DaAdminGooner 25 February, 2012 at 11:41

          The interesting thing whomever is managing Zenit – Prandelli I think – didn’t want Arshavin. He was brought back by the board.

        • Fred 25 February, 2012 at 15:41

          @DaAdminGooner,

          Arshavin will still play 90 minutes of every game at Zenit.
          He is a favorite son. And outside England, managers actually
          obey orders from the board, not the other way round.

  4. George Kenya 24 February, 2012 at 06:22 Log in to Reply

    OH NO!!!

    Djorou is talking before a big game. The omens are not looking good. If Walcott says something in the next 48 hours we are going to get a hiding at home.

    The arsenal script has become too predictable. There is always a week between Feb and March where we go out of all competitions, get injuries then reports that in the next transfer window we are doing away with our current policy with Wenger having 50 million pounds to spend, but that not coming from the club itself but from anonymous insiders!!!

  5. DaAdminGooner 23 February, 2012 at 12:42 Log in to Reply

    Hey guys – Sorry for the lack of content this week. I think I used my quotient up last week.

    Actually, the new job kept me busy this week building a major presentation for my clients.

    A couple of things –

    1. STEVE – Please let me know when you get your Sagna shirt. It’s ordered and on its way. Yes, I finally got around to it.

    2. I was on the Arsenal Review US Podcast talking post Milan and Sunderland – If you want to have a listen it can be accessed here –

    http://nasn.tv/2012/post-sunderland-not-short-not-sweet-week/

    Also – waiting for some stuff to come out of the board meeting today should be an interesting day news wise.

    Finally, some good news Arsenal have decided to freeze ticket prices for next season. These apply to all GA and regular season tickets.

  6. stag133 23 February, 2012 at 03:07 Log in to Reply

    Zenit want Arshavin back on loan.
    Deal needs to be done by tomorrow.
    Would you send him back to Russia… and hope they want to keep him?

    with the emergence of Ox and Gervinho ahead of him as well…
    he played in the reserves recently… (scored 2 goals).
    But if Wenger is going to keep playing him out of position, whats the point?
    I say loan him out back to Zenit… maybe he’ll play well, and they will want to keep him.

    He wants to play in the Euros… and if he isn’t getting any starts at Arsenal, he’s not going to play in the Euros.

  7. HighburyTerraceSteve 21 February, 2012 at 20:25 Log in to Reply

    Quick one, trying to stay on topic…..And, I’ve already posted my query (a day late….) over at 7amkickoff, where Tim did a (typically) informative article on Kronke yesterday….

    What do people know about Silent Stan and his relationship with Phil Anschutz (AEG–Anschutz Entertainment Group)? Anschutz, of course, is trying to develop an NFL stadium in Downtown Los Angeles, next to the Staples Center. (It’s a billion dollar + project, even though there’s no NFL team….But Kronke, of course, owns the St Louis Rams, formerly of LA…..) Anschutz also owns both the LA Galaxy (and their stadium, the Home Depot Center, as well as an interest in the Houston Dynamo (who the Galaxy beat in the MLS cup. Also, he used to own the Colorado Rapids (before selling to Kronke). The latest news is a “denial” from AEG about a $715 Million bid to buy Tottenham Hotspur. Given that Phil is Stan’s buddy and (sometimes) business partner, I wonder WTF is going on….Could Arsenal end up as the rope in a tug of war between old Soviet bosses (Abramovich/Usmanov) and American ones (Kronke/Anschutz) as North and West London outposts (Spurs/Chelsea) battle for the big London prize (and thus English) Football supremacy?

    Anyhow, just curious, and thinking about it puts a crimp in my theory that Kronke is hoping the team continues to falter so that he can sell out to Usmanov/Dein who will “save the day.” Maybe Stan (and his buddy Phil) ARE in it for the long haul (and the REALLY big money)…..

    • George 21 February, 2012 at 20:47 Log in to Reply

      @HighburyTerraceSteve,
      Sorry If I sound a bit stupid: So your saying Arsenals owner and the guy possibly interested in buying Spurs are best buddies? What are the possible implications for Arsenal if this guy buys Tottenham?

      • HighburyTerraceSteve 21 February, 2012 at 22:27 Log in to Reply

        @George, I’m probably the stupid
        one….or at least I have an over-active imagination….

        People like Kronke and Anschutz (and Usmanov or Abramovich or
        Sheik Mansour….) are operating at a level of finance
        that is beyond comprehension. You would think that, at some
        point, being part of something that makes people (fans) happy
        would trump moving up the Forbes list….Unfortunately, for
        Arsenal supporters, I don’t think that’s Stan’s M.O., and
        gridiron fans in St. Louis might get awfully sad if Stan/Phil
        get their team/stadium in Los Angeles….

        Long term, as a coping mechanism for increased player salaries,
        European football (in my opinion) will have to
        morph into a more collectivist approach, more akin to the US
        sports leagues. Those leagues use profit sharing to keep
        things competitive (along with drafts and other elements to
        keep things competitive) and to negotiate with players’ unions.
        There’s also a long history of cities trying to “win”
        (or keep) franchises by taking on debt to help finance
        stadiums. Debt finance or sugar daddies willing to take huge
        losses can only go on for so long….

        My knowledge of Anschutz comes from a story I read in
        the New Yorker….It focused on the public and private elements
        of the downtown Los Angeles sports complex as well as Anschutz’
        attempts to “change the culture” through vertical control
        of entertainment enterprises and significant philanthropy to
        christian organizations. How ironic would it be if he took
        ownership of a team associated with Jewish supporters….
        What are Kronke’s, “big” goals, I wonder….

        Probably nothing beyond upping his net worth….and if he and
        a buddy can own the two halves of an epic rivalry while having
        a gentleman’s agreement in place about keeping spending in
        line, then maybe it’s a good thing. (A recent thing I saw on
        Anschutz suggests he’s less interested in Spurs if he can’t do
        a teardown and rebuild on the Olympic Stadium site, so maybe
        it’s all smoke and no fire….) A week from now the gap will
        be either 13 or 10 or 7 points, so everything is upside down
        and Spurs look a good bet to finish (well) ahead of us. Maybe
        a new and frugal-minded Spurs owner will kick fast and loose
        ‘Arry over to the national side and won’t pay Ade his
        200k/week while trying to cash out Bale and or Modric, etc. so
        that we at least have a fighting chance….

        Who knows? Supposedly Kroenke is in London to say a word or two
        of support for AW. Meanwhile, Chelsea get the precious away
        goal at Napoli so maybe their 2nd leg isn’t just a formality.
        Fun times…..

  8. sachin 21 February, 2012 at 04:12 Log in to Reply

    Two recent films could really be about Arsenal.

    MARGIN CALL: Arsenal’s board learn they are holding toxic players that no one wants to buy but unlike the film, everyone in the market knows the players are toxic and no one is willing to buy. So what are the club going to do? Clearly no one at Arsenal is as ruthless as Jeremy Irons’ character & can make that cut-throat decision.

    MONEYBALL: Arsenal have collected players that no one else wanted including players whose fitness was questionable. Stats are used to sub players off and predict winning results. Turns out Arsenal are still waiting to win that final game (cup final or cup tie in this case). And apparently, Arsenal’s manager also once turned down a high paying job to take over a big club once.

  9. sachin 21 February, 2012 at 04:03 Log in to Reply

    I am sure everyone has already seen all the tweets from monday’s AST meeting but the following from Tim Payton still has not sunk in a few hours later:

    Most interesting point from tonight is if arsenal lose champions league income they could struggle to comply with ffp regulations

    Whenever anyone questioned Arsenal’s model, Ivan likened spending money to a drug habit. Turns out Arsenal’s model is addicted after all but to the champions league income. That should not come as a surprize but the Financial fair play depends on it? The ffp was supposed to bankrupt other evil clubs & allow the virtuous morally superior Arsenal to win everything. Yet, I have a feeling other clubs will exploit loop holes like City did & only Arsenal would get caught out. Man Utd are too big to fail but Arsenal are not.

    • DaAdminGooner 21 February, 2012 at 05:06 Log in to Reply

      @sachin,

      I’m an AST member and I also chat with Tim frequently and that point he made is being questioned. because the last thing I was told was that Arsenal actually had enough cash available to survive effectively without making the CL for 2 seasons.

      • sachin 22 February, 2012 at 05:16 Log in to Reply

        @DaAdminGooner, Previously, that is what I thought as well
        in that Arsenal could survive a few seasons without CL. However, I never thought about
        financial fair play in terms of survival but more in terms of wages. I am sure this is not the end of
        it and more will be filtered out…

      • Fred 23 February, 2012 at 18:35 Log in to Reply

        @DaAdminGooner,

        DAG, forget about the cash. The FFS was supposed to limit the amount
        spent as a ratio of the amount earned.

        With the CL hit, won’t we have to reduce our wages even further to be
        within the max ratio?

        How would we improve the squad? Except ofcourse by REDUCING the wages of
        some of the players we already have on the book. But why would the players
        agree? Eg. Almunia.

  10. stag133 20 February, 2012 at 23:10 Log in to Reply

    Roy Keane on the current Arsenal FC.
    “this is the worst Arsenal team I’ve seen, since I started watching them”.

    AMEN.
    Me too Roy.
    It’s a fecking embarrassment.

  11. George 20 February, 2012 at 20:40 Log in to Reply

    Anyone consider Steve Bould as a suitable replacement for Arsene? He’s an ex defender, and he seems to be doing a good job with the U-18s, I know its a mile away from managing the first team but how about this: Move Arsene upstairs onto the board, he can sort out all the things Bould has no experience with transfers etc and let the manager manage the team? Got to be worth a thought at least. Anyone else think its a good idea?

    • stag133 20 February, 2012 at 23:05 Log in to Reply

      @George, I like the idea of Bould being on the staff… but I don’t want Wenger on the Board or anywhere near making decisions on transfers.

  12. CaribKid 20 February, 2012 at 18:33 Log in to Reply

    If you have watched Arsenal carefully over the past 5 years, one thing that stands out in my mind is the lack of team ORGANIZATION both in defense and attack.

    In many cases the players don’t seem to know their roles and/or the system. This begs the question whether they are just too dumb to understand or whether they are not being trained to do so.

    We talk about the lack of a Plan B, but in many instances there doesn’t even seem to be a Plan A outside of slowly passing the ball side to side and backwards.

    When we had higher quality players this masked our weaknesses. With lower quality we are merely being exposed and exposed to the extent where we are not even playing attractive football.

    • stag133 20 February, 2012 at 23:07 Log in to Reply

      @CaribKid, We currently have no style of play, and we don’t play that “beautiful game” that we were at least known for over the previous seasons…
      that’s because we are without the TALENT we previously had…
      You simply can’t sell your best players year after year…. and do nothing about it on the pitch.
      LOVE Arteta, and his attitude…
      but he’s not Cesc in any facet of the game… and there was no replacement for Nasri either…

      We are simply put, just another team, with a great striker in RVP.
      Nothing else stands out. NOTHING.

    • joshuad 21 February, 2012 at 02:02 Log in to Reply

      amen, carib. since gallas began to be undermined by the club (wenger) arsenal has looked completely clueless. when gallas didn’t sign an extension, i knew we were in trouble. despite his talent, vermaelen wasn’t ready to be the main man in the back. he’s typical germanian; hard as woodpecker lips but lacks the experience to cope with a clever foe.

      when we played barca three seasons ago and gallas went off injured, vermaelen’s lack of awareness was completely exposed. barcelona picked on him, continually setting traps for the big belgian and he fell for every single one. ibrahimovic didn’t forget and milan picked on him again last wednesday. a handful of people were saying how much better vermaelen was than gallas but billy has been around the block a few too many times and has too much silverware in his locker for that argument to be legit. i tried to make that point and people argued. time always tells.

      big per mertesacker is not the quickest so he has to be smart. we sucked in the back before he came to arsenal and have sucked since he’s been injured. that’s what’s missing. credit to song, he was more vocal on saturday than i’ve ever seen him, trying to stand in the gap and push the team, but i fear arsenal will miss the big german down the stretch. once again, time will tell.

      • stag133 22 February, 2012 at 05:52 Log in to Reply

        @joshuad, Per Mertz has been SHIT. I’d take Vermaelen over him every day of the week, and that’s saying something, because Verm hasn’t had a good season either. There are NO solid defensive stalwarts in the Arsenal squad… with the best/most consistent being Sagna, pre-injury.

  13. joshuad 20 February, 2012 at 15:08 Log in to Reply

    wenger’s come out crying about how players are out injured. spurs have players who’ve been out all season too. the questions is what is the manager going to do about it? my biggest problem isn’t with the players unavailable, but with the tactics being employed.

    the 4-3-3 doesn’t work if all three of your strikers aren’t scoring regularly. while rvp’s been tearing it up, theo and gervinho, despite have in the neighborhood of 3000 bpl minutes between them, have a grand total of 6 bpl goals this season. that’s un-sat, boys.

    the second thing you need in a 4-3-3 is a playmaker in midfield. last year, we had cesc and samir. this year, the hope was for wilshere and diaby to fill the gap but they’ve both been broke all season. so that’s the hand you’re dealt, boss. quit sniveling, put your poker face on, and find a way to make that hand a winner. that’s what you get paid to do, wenger. i hate cry babies.

    my questions is if we don’t have the players available to play a 4-3-3 with success, why are we still playing this formation? everyone knows the van persie is the danger man so the obvious approach that milan and sunderland applied is to mark rvp out of the game with double and sometimes triple teams. it’s insane. van persie is the arsenal leader, play maker, and goal scorer. what the hell is everyone else doing? we saw it happen with henry, then with fabregas. that burden gets awful heavy for one man to bear week after week.

    what would seem a better option to me is revert to a 4-4-2 with a #9 ahead of van persie or let rvp lead the line with arshavin in his natural position behind him. i’m confident that arteta and song can compete with anyone in the center of midfield. i’m also confident that if arsenal don’t find a way to start winning more games, they don’t deserve to be in the champions league.

    • George 20 February, 2012 at 18:10 Log in to Reply

      @joshuad,
      Call me a psycho, but Arshavin could fill that playmaker role behind RVP. With Ramsey out he can at least be considered for it, and he can be a match winner. The last time he played there was against Bolton in the CC and he got a goal and an assist.

  14. joshuad 20 February, 2012 at 01:50 Log in to Reply

    initially, the board opposed kronke because they didn’t want to be owned; especially by a foreigner. why? because an owner could come in with his own ideas and fire board members that he didn’t fancy. i believe the cries were similar to “we don’t want your type”. ugh.

    then they got to know stan and understood he wasn’t interested in changing anything or firing anyone; just the financial pluses that came with being the owner. this guy is a business man, plain and simple, not a threat.

    however, there was a russian guy who began buying shares who had bad intentions. intentions that meant moving arsenal forward to greater footballing glories by any means necessary, even if it meant firing board members.

    the board then began posturing to insulate their new savior (kronke) and isolate the threat (usmanov) ensuring that only the lesser of the two evils could ever buy enough stakes to launch a takeover bid. kronke’s takeover essentially protected the board from usmanov.

    be mindful that while this is all some crap i made up, 2+2 still equals 4.

    what we as fans consider success (trophies) may not be the same thing kronke does. if this is a fact, sacking the board and wenger won’t matter as the next board and manager will have the same marching orders and be given the same limited backing as their predecessors. this would be simpler if we knew kronke’s guidance, but no one (wenger, the board, or kronke) is talking.

    most managers might simply walk away if they didn’t like what the owner was pitching. however, hate him or love him, wenger is the most relevant factor in arsenal becoming the cash cow that it is today. this makes it tougher for him to simply walk away. bottom line, is it the manager trying to make miracles with his seeming jaded ideals and shoestring budgets or is it the owner refusing to back up the club to line their pockets? with no clear statement of intent, who knows?

  15. George 19 February, 2012 at 18:45 Log in to Reply

    If theres anything more depressing than the current performances on the pitch, then its that the one man who has the power to change this (excluding Arsene and the players) by getting us some new additions, is not only not coming to games but not taking an interest at all in the club. It seems to me that Silent Stan is buying all these teams to make as much money and show off.

    Just got to concentrate on the games at the moment, any chance our boys will come out next sunday fired up, thump Spurs by a couple (or even just beat them) and kick on from there? well i suppose a guy can dream

    • stag133 19 February, 2012 at 18:58 Log in to Reply

      @George Frankly, Just hope Spurs don’t embarrass us. They are a far superior team this season.

      • George 19 February, 2012 at 19:08 Log in to Reply

        @stag133,
        You never know in football, in a way it might suit us people giving us no chance, it might make us prove them wrong. But im expecting us to lose, but if we win who knows what could happen. It could turn our season around…or this bad patch anyway

        • stag133 20 February, 2012 at 03:44

          @George, a one off win against Spurs wouldn’t turn the season around. We can’t be good teams regularly. We don’t have the players to compete against the better teams… especially in defense. And we keep piling up injuries in defense … further screwing the situation. You need a CONSISTENT back 4, same players … learning each other… and feeding off each other… knowing what to expect and what the others will do. That is a HUGE part of why the “Arsenal Back 4” was so successful. That, and the fact that they were stay at home defenders, not smurfs … whose main objective is to go forward.
          That, is 1000% a Wenger issue.

        • George 20 February, 2012 at 07:24

          @stag133,
          Not on its own no, but it could boost confidence by a LOT and (hopefully) when Koscielny is back we will have a consistent back 4

  16. not Robin van Persie 19 February, 2012 at 17:00 Log in to Reply

    http://www.facebook.com/events/180907922011598/

    Im inviteing u to Robin van Persie Farewell Party which will be held this summer during transfer window.

    Cheers~ 8-)

  17. stag133 19 February, 2012 at 16:25 Log in to Reply

    DAG, appears you were right on the money with Stan… we were rudderless BEFORE he came in, and we are the same now. Obviously, the hope was, that things might actually change with new ownership… and my hope was that he would have interest in bringing Arsenal to the US during the Summer. Only made too much sense.
    But alas, he’s done just about nothing that we know of… and the team is still spiraling downward.
    Is Usi the Russian the next owner? or are the Arsenal FC destined to fall to the level of also ran, fighting for 6th, 7th… whatever-ville?

    I guess like the rest of us, I don’t get it… why would you want to take a team who is on the cusp of being among Europe’s best, regularly… and push into the direction of oblivion on the pitch…
    We are REALLY close to becoming a team that simply doesn’t matter.

    We’re in Mid February, and we’re out of ALL competitions.
    Enough said.

  18. Fernando Carrol 19 February, 2012 at 16:22 Log in to Reply

    Im all for this! what exactly needs to be done for this man to be detached from the club?

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