UEFA and FIFA take on the EPL

If you fall in a match and UEFA isn't there - is it a dive?
In the current environment of the 24 hour news cycle there has not been a shortage of articles either supporting or criticizing the recent actions of both FIFA and UEFA with regard to the Eduardo ban for diving and Chelsea’s 2-year ban on conducting business in the transfer window.
What is crystal clear from these actions is that English Football and specifically its larger, more successful clubs seem to be a target for harsh judgments from both governing bodies. Whether it’s Arsenal’s Eduardo getting a 2 game ban from UEFA for diving during the Gunners match versus Celtic or Chelsea FC’s 2 year ban from FIFA for supposedly inducing Lens starlet, Gael Kakuta to break his contract with the French club, the actions seem to take direct aim at some of England’s biggest clubs. Finally, lost in the news due to the ban on Chelsea is a move by UEFA (ironically being driven by Roman Abramovich) to have all clubs balance their books or risk being removed from the chance to play in any European competitions – a direct challenge to high-spending Manchester City.
In any case all of these moves are groundbreaking and unprecedented in their nature. Readily apparent is that these moves directly involve English Premier League (EPL) clubs. And while FC Sion did receive a similar ban to Chelsea’s, the ferocity and apparent pile on the rabbit mentality of foreign clubs on EPL clubs is astounding. This environment of jealously and brinksmanship comes primarily from the fact that both FIFA’s Sepp Blatter and UEFA’s Michel Platini have an inherent dislike for the success of the EPL and by extension its more successful clubs.
“I have my concerns because the Premier League is the strongest in the world, definitely,” Blatter told BBC 5 Live. “It is taking over in such a manner that others have difficulties matching it.”
Both Blatter and Platini have had well documented, high profile rants against the EPL. From, foreign ownership, club debt levels, influx of foreign players and beyond the duo has been on an almost quixotic quest against the influence of the world’s highest profile football league.
Year over year, the EPL success is measured by its growing television revenues and overseas trips. To add to its growing popularity, ESPN is finally jumping on board picking up the slack that was left behind from Setanta Sports going into administration. With this kind of exposure of the EPL will grow exponentially, especially in the United States. Something sure to draw the additional ire of Messieurs Blatter and Platini.
It’s not that the issues that they take on are without merit. There isn’t a Liverpool supporter alive that isn’t concerned about the constant debt worries caused by the ownership of the team by Gillett and Hicks. Additionally, I am sure English fans would like to see more English players in their teams. How many fans out there wouldn’t like to see the game played more fairly without players purposely trying to manipulate the outcome? It’s not the issues per se, but the arbitrary way in which FIFA and UEFA have chosen to enforce the rules.
Based on the evidence at hand to the average reader and fan, the penalties are harshest and most visible against EPL teams. You would have had to look hard to find anything on FC Sion’s judgment for the same issue as Chelsea. And while FIFA say they have 100s of cases to review, there is little to lead one to think that the next one enforced will also be against an English club.
Looking specifically at UEFA’s recent attempt to protect the integrity of the game and stamp out diving, it is I am sure well intentioned if not a tad bit late. Over the years there have been countless “divers” – Didier Drogba, Christiano Ronaldo, Rivaldo – to name a few. In fact the obscure 2006 rule that was used to judge Eduardo was made as a result of Rivaldo going down one too many times. The problem is that based on the wording of that rule, Eduardo would have to been shown to deceive the ref with malicious intent. How UEFA came to that determination is unknown. Eduardo does not call for the penalty and it is quickly awarded by the ref, who reasserted during the post-match that he did not feel the player had deceived him.
Finally, UEFA’s judgment of this one event as an attempt to fight cheating is wonky in light of this comment some days following Eduardo’s ruling:
UEFA “has no plans to institute a regular programme of video referrals for matches under its jurisdiction or issue an anti-diving directive.”
Messieurs Platini plans on crusading against diving then video referrals and an anti-diving directive is EXACTLY what is needed. Not some far off- handed attempt to make a point. But UEFA argues that using video technology for instance would affect the integrity of their refs. A simple call to the NFL commissioner’s office would likely help him to see the error of his ways.
In addition to Platini’s anti-diving campaign, we are also presented with Sepp Blatter’s campaign to protect the children. On its surface, no one can fault a need to protect young players who may or may not have the benefit of wise counsel in matters that will shape their careers. Even Gordon Taylor, President of the Professional Footballers Association (PFA) wants to see a band on the transfers of players under 18.
Again like Platini’s arbitrary ruling against Arsenal, Blatter’s attempt to make a statement by harshly dealing with Chelsea in the Kakuta matter is another case of taking a sledge hammer to crack an egg. It is furthermore complicated in that the ruling was handed down on 27 August 2009 but not provided to the club until 2 days AFTER the transfer window had closed. Had the notice been received before, Chelsea certainly would’ve been able to buy players to offset the inability to do so.
The repercussions are already starting to be seen. Now every minor club that feels it was aggrieved in losing a young player is coming out of the wood work wanting to request that FIFA or their association look into. Since Chelsea’s ban – La Havre is asking for an investigation of Manchester United, League Two side Crewe Alexandra have filed a complaint with the FA regarding an unnamed Premier League club, and it goes on and on.
Rather than having a frank discussion about how to fix the problem Sepp Blatter’s actions have basically created a witch hunt looking to exact an ounce of revenge because larger clubs found loops holes in which to sign young promising players. That doesn’t negate the fact that some clubs may have worked deals against existing laws or in bad faith but overall since nothing exists to prohibit the practice of signing younger players clubs are well within their right to do so.
Simply crucifying Chelsea (as much of a delight as it is to Arsenal fans) adds to the theory the FIFA much like UEFA are trying to bring the EPL down. Bring a down an association that on its own, has raised the profile on a global level. Yes, some of the Serie A sides and La Liga sides have as well but not on the level of the EPL. When an Everton travelled to compete in the MLS all-star game it was an event. I would argue you would not get the same response if Almeria were to do the same.
What Sepp and Michel are worried about is that the influence of the EPL eclipses their own power. When the EPL does something people take notice. When UEFA and FIFA do, people merely shrug their shoulders. Additionally, when each organization talks of preserving the game, its heritage, etc, they seem slightly silly because in the next breathe their validation is for pure business reasons.
So when we talk of anti-English bias by UEFA and FIFA it’s not so much a xenophobic kind of reaction to the league, It is more about an attempt by both organizations to limit the prestige and influence of the league. If they want to really talk protecting the game integrity and the young players – bravo. But no one will take it seriously until they expand their myopic view from the tiny island in the North Atlantic to the rest of the globe.
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I watched that guy who broke another player’s leg in Belgium. He called a press conference, apologized to the player, his family, his friend, his club and everyone else. He said he was sorry it happened and that he would accept any punishment given. He was banned for 11 games!!!
Now compare that to the Martin Taylor incident.
Even with Fabio Capello, England are NOT going to win the World Cup. ABE – Anybody but England. :)
First, thanks for all the kind words lads – I really just tried to create a place for us all to congreagate and discuss our favourite team. Thanks to you guys for deciding to come over.
As for the match this week – I am working on a preview – I promise to be more analytical and less tabloidish.
However, while I do not think the match will be easy, I do think this is one even without Arshavin we should win.
Man City has been in good form with their wins. Howver, except for a late, late goal by Ireland against Blackburn – they’ve only got one goal scorer and scored one goal against, Wolves and Portsmouth.
Portsmouth striker Freddie Piquonne was a hard one to handle and Shay Given was easily man of the match in my estimation (tied with the wood work).
City’s back four are suspect. Lescott nearly let in two goals in succession last week.
Throw in the absence of Tevez and the likely absenece of Robinho and the attack threat is down to Adebayor up the middle. I’ll take Vermalen and Gallas who for the exception of Rooney’s pratfall two weeks ago had the Man U striker in their pocket all day at Old Trafford. And I rate Rooney over Ade easily. Rooney works harder and doesn’t give up. Ade shows a propensity to get frustrated when he isn’t getting clear. Still deadly when he wants to be but when he gets frustrated he is not so big a threat.
I still like our attack and with Cesc, Rosicky, Dudu and Walcott back we still look the better side. But I will go over all this in tomorrow’s entry.
Thanks again for the kind words.
btw DAG, are you one of the old regulars back in our AA days?
What’s your nickname back then?
All the best to this site of you and hope it continue to grow!
Andez I operated under 2 usernames at AA – MPRadamacue and ThreeSidesLive.
I was more of a lurker. I checked in occassionally. I joined 2 years ago and never got my damn membership card LOL.
Arshavin’s absence is a real shame. For me, he simply adds the x-factor the moments of magic that no-one else does in attack. He is a world class creative talent. Yet in saying that he hasn’t had a major impact on the team in the early handful of games we’ve played, he’s still warming to the task.
The up is the return of Fabregas. So the midfield and defence will be sound. And in attack Eduardo, RvP and Bendtner should return happy with their own individual performances for their country’s.
Like I said before the ManU game, sooner or later we will have a disappointment, the interest is in the teams response to that. ManU was a disappointment. Nasri and Rosicky haven’t featured for Arsenal this season, so the only change is Arshavin who as we discussed has been quiet in the openings games. If we revert to our pressing game we should create quick turnover and opportunities, the challenge is then as it always is, to convert them.
This is a game where the team will feel the heat of expectation. At home, against an up-and-comer, against old boys, coming off a disappointment, needing a good result. This is a test of the team mental strenght. The game could be decided by one goal. It may be from Verma or Gallas – guys with the stomach for ‘the moment’.
Unsurprisingly, I find myself agreeing with Mazza and Kiwi here. It’s pointless going on about what AW hasn’t done for the third year running, because (as arsesession said elsewhere) there’s no chance of Le Boss questioning/doubting his philosophy at this late date. The lack of depth is infuriating, but it’s wasted energy railing on about that any further.
So tomorrow does loom large as referendum on the mentality of the team we do have. The loss of Arsha concerns me, because his stamina has already been an issue. The only cure for that is playing matches (for those of you who thought it was ‘more cowbell’), so this is not just a setback for the City match. We need Arsha in shape to go a full 90, and that looks like it might take some time.
The good news is, this could be just as big a referendum on the new Citeh. I’m still not a believer.
Generally, there have already been enough shock results in just the first few weeks, that I wouldn’t throw in the towel if we drop points. But it would be nice to see us make a positive statement of heart and intent.
@Andez, I’m pretty sure I was struck from Dr. K’s Xmas card list when I questioned if he might be a surgeon, as they tend to be arrogant, uninterested in the opinions of others, and thus comfortable making unilateral decisions. He never did respond to that one. Probably late for a tonsillectomy.
After he constantly brought up the necessary to PAY for being members of the site, and kept mentioning that it COSTS to run a site.
I asked him a simple question – HOW MUCH it cost to run a site annually?
Never heard from him since.
As I recall, you asked more than once. ;-)
Having a professional site of my own, I would guess it costs very little to keep AA up. And it should have been more than covered by dues. As most of us know there weren’t outside expenses like, oh, having membership cards printed. Anyway, that’s probably why he never answered. It was non-point, to begin with.
Anyway, that’s the past, too. We’re better off here, as there is no doubt why YARM exists. (And thanks again, MP.)
Nasri, Rosicky(still too early), Arshavin. That’s a tough list of absentees and it makes the match on Saturday a very tough one.
See, this is where Wenger’s refusal/inability to address our continual bottling bites us in the backside. We threw the United match away because of dimwits like Eboue, Diaby, and Denilson(gave away the free kick and played a poor ball seconds before their first goal), and now we found ourselves in a situation where losing this match to City would be no disgrace.
However, because we comedically gifted United the match two weeks ago, we will now find ourselves in big trouble if we drop points on Sat and the likes of Chelsea inevitably win. This is what seems to happen season after season. We slip up due to our inherent fragility and then this gets compounded by just losing a regulation match in which there is no shame, like City on Saturday, playing a team that has spend shit loads and without three of our most mobile playnmakers.
It’s said all the time, but I feel this match really is our season. If we win this then the attitude/belief well and truly has shifted this year.
Argentina really aint all that good when you look at their squad. Okay they have Messi, but past that they have another set of Ortegas/Aimars in Tevez and Aguero, players tipped for big things but end up plateauing out. The fact that until recently Jonas Guttierez of Newcastle was first choice tells you that they are not that deep.
And Veron is back in the centre. That says it all really.
Veron’s only back in the center because that dumbass coach Maradonna alienated Juan Roman Riquelme. And he’s on his way to alienating the rest of the squad if he’s not careful.
“Throughout my life watching football, I never seen Argentina fail to qualify for the World Cup. It would be the shock of the millennium in the football world that they fail to qualify for WC2010.”
It would not shock me one bit. I called it the minute they appointed Maradonna coach: “Don’t be surprised if they fail to qualify” was my thought.
Maradonna is an idiot, and the AFA are idiots for letting him be in charge of their team. The man was a brilliant player, but look at his off-the-field life… hard narcotics addiction, rehab, wasted all his fortune, maybe prison too (?)… the point is, who in the world would let a person like that take on such an important job.
This would be like a Fortune 500 company appointing a former crack addict to be their CEO. There’s a reason people like Maradonna can’t get jobs in the real world: No one will hire them, b/c they’d fuck it all up. And, surprise, surprise, look what he did w/ the Argentine NT: he fucked it up.
I have to agree. Maradona never even completed high school. And has lived a largely tumultuous personal life – even up till date.
He was a great player by “out-talenting” everybody else on the pitch. It was never because of his Baggio or Bergkamp-like “vision” or any sort of hardwork.
It was all just raw talent. If he wasnt in football he would probably be serving a life sentence.
Hiring him is up there as one of the most stupid things the Argentine FA could have done. Even much worse than Newcastle hiring that messiah plank.
@stag
in the back of all of our minds, the lack of experienced depth at CB and holding midfielder is still a concern; Arsene will never question his own judgment. (this is not new)
Obviously, he has convinced himself that Senderos is as good as anyone available in the market and will be backup at CB for the full season.
Here is a link on a Sept. 10th post, thought everyone would enjoy not only the article but read the comments.
http://youngguns.wordpress.com/
Totally agree about the emergence of Spurs and City, especially as neither have dropped points yet. Everton and Villa are good teams as well but off to much slower starts. (Although I’m happy to thank Everton for rolling over for us and Villa for taking another 3 points from Liverpool.)
Also agree with the idea that we must learn to cope without Arshavin. Hopefully a little juggling up front and that Bendtner and RVP bring their good international form back for us. I read somewhere that the Czech coach had consulted with Wenger and agreed to only play him an hour—if only Hiddink could have done the same….
Or maybe not…in my experience, groin problems are very difficult to rehab completely as the “muscle” is really almost a tendon (i.e., little blood flow to help heal it). It needs full healing and then slow increases in stretching and strengthening to get to a point where a re-tweak is not an issue.
Greetings and salutations my frieds.
I see it is all much the same. I couldn’t bring myself to get excited and debate about the new season, until the transfer window closed. I have to say, nothing has changed for Arsenal either. Same nonsense by Wenger, which puts us in the same exact position as last year, and the year before.
Injuries are a major part of the sport, and it is 100% Arsene Wenger’s responsibility to have proper replacements when injuries occur.
Again, he does not. We brought in nobody in DM, and there is nobody who would have said we didn’t need to do so.
He had his chance to do so, and did absolutely nothing.
So, I won’t invest too much in this team. They are fun to watch, and have a lot of talent and potential. That is the signature of Wenger. But I will agree with Fred, in some respect, they don’t have that killer instinct (he called it choking), and we are NOT prepared for the long haul of the EPL season. Not enough depth, and no ability to cope with key injuries.
I think this won’t change, until Arsene Wenger is gone. He will not budge, and we will not win anything.
No, not advocating he gets fired, but the reality is… we won’t win a trophy this way.
On the plus side… Vermaelen has looked fantastic, and he looks great back there with Gallas. But what happens when one of them get injured?
I think Song and Denilson have played well in the first few games, as compared to last year anyway… they have improved. But not enough to compensate for not getting a steely proper DM, as an option or when an injury occurs. One will occur.
We looked great in the first 2 matches, lost to ManU because they know how to win, and have star players that know how to win, which is called “experience”… and know up comes Man City. Make no mistake… they are a talented team, and they are flying high with confidence. Their good start has made them a massive threat. If they started off shaky, there might have been finger pointing and despair, and it might have all gone wrong for Man City… but they are playing well, and there star players have EXPERIENCE. They are not 21 years old. So… they are going to be a difficult team to beat, all year long. They will be hard to beat on Saturday.
I’ll watch with excitement… but I don’t expect a trophy this year again… Wenger “CHOKED” again, refusing to do the smart thing, and instead doing the stubborn thing. 4th place is not even remotely guaranteed, as the league is more wide open than in recent memory. God or Santa Claus bless us all.
Stag, what takes you so long?!
I dropped a link on AA a while ago calling you over here, amazingly they decided to delete it. For what?? I thought it was THEIR idea originally to move people out of there.
” I dropped a link on AA a while ago calling you over here, amazingly they decided to delete it. For what?? I thought it was THEIR idea originally to move people out of there.”
What do you want to bet he wound up lurking around here and saw what we were saying about his handling of AA? He strikes me as the type who would take the link down over petty shit like that.
Glad you finally made it, Stagg. FYI…we don’t say ‘Groundhog’s Day’ around here, anymore. ;-)
Yup I got a feeling you and I are now both in their “blacklist”!
I know I am definitely in the list for sure. ;)
here’s what i posted – “stag, why don’t you come and join us at youaremyarsenal.com?”
Not sure what houserule did I break with it? Afterall, their president himself had posted the same link previously.
worse than petty s*it. They hold grudge.
It’s like the David Kilpatrick show over there.
Oh, here is a photo of me outside the Emirates, oh, here’s one of me in the Arsenal press room.
It’s good that DeAdmin(forget name sorry) set up this site. I wouldn’t wanna post at AM anymore anyway.
It is pathetic what has happened to that site. When I go over to a match this year, I am going to try and talk to “the club” about the site. I have a friend of a friend. There are no stories, or hits on the site. Nothing worthwhile is posted. What would the point of the site be? It doesn’t represent Arsenal Football Club well, they’d think there was no interest in football in the US.
they have turned the site into a AA branch managers meeting place (greeting from Dallas, Hello from Mars) / a TV guide / and a pub-to-go guide! :)
Oh yeah, and telling people how much Bay Area AA branch enjoyed Arsenal’s opener 6-1 rout! That surely would get people off their seats and go and find out how much Bay Area fans enjoyed the win!
And don’t forget that soon the “membership cards” will be arriving….
It’s pretty ridiculous the way they went about their business although I can see how some of the negative comments of ANY in-depth discussion would be at odds with a pure “supporters” group. I’m not at all against pub meet-ups, but what’s the big deal with also hosting an open discussion thread?
Once again a big thank you should go out to DAG/Michael for his work in getting this site up and running as smoothly as he has.
The emerging of City and Spurs this season will make the consequence of a defeat to City unthinkable.
There’s no guarantee United will beat Spurs either, not with their current form. Spurs been in good form, while United, if they played like playing against us last game, unless Spurs too wanna play Santa Claus, I wouldn’t be surpised to see an upset.
The 3 points we dropped against United hurt us more in terms of morale than the actual points loss. Coming away from Old Trafford empty handed was hardly a shock. But coming away empty handed in a match we really should have won will serve as a good test to a team’s mental strength.
We didn’t show that last season when Spurs managed that late draw against us at Emirates. We struggled to pick ourselves up right away and didn’t manage to steady the ship until the turn of the year, and by then it’s too late.
So the Man City match is a good opportunity for us to see how strong our current corp of players really are MENTALLY.
Bouncebackability, as far as I’m concerned, is the major quality that separates the title contenders from the pretenders.
It will be told this weekend.
Arsh confirmed out for 3 games.
Djourou confirmed out for 6-8 months. That is the season.
This is a BIG game. Make no mistake.
Arsenal are a confidence team. Win and we begin to delight. Lose and we suck big time. In some sense, the international break came at the right time. Time to forget that ManU game.
Our boys have done well on the international front. Time to bring that A game to the club. Doubt Rosicky will feature but if we are to challenge for the title, we need to be winning such games.
A win would silence all that stupid talk about ManCity crashing into the top 4. A loss will only make the vultures hungrier for our blood.
Go Arsenal!
Andrei Arshavin injured for Arsenal as Arsene Wenger rages against Russia appearance
Terrific.
@ mac
yeah, pretty frustrating news.
however, if the team is to win silverware, at some point Arsenal must learn to play well & win without Arshavin on the pitch!
rationally, now (early in the season, with our other key players healthy) is a good time to start.
for saturday, Arsene should have available: Bendtner, RvP, Eduardo, Theo for upfront, Rosicky, Cesc, Song in midfield; all the back 4 defenders + denilson, diaby, Ramsey, Wilshere, & eboue.
We should be more prepared for City than they for us!
Maradona’s coaching career (for Argentina) may soon fall off the cliff. Many will attribute his fate as ‘the hand of G_d’!
Out of the spot light (yesterday), Song had another strong showing in midfield (for Cameroon) in their win over Gabon.
Many of our players used the interlull to have positive performances with their national teams: Bendtner, RvP, Ramsey, Cesc, Song, Eduardo, Arshavin, Sagna, & Rosicky.
I wouldn’t cry too much for Argentina just yet as they’ve still got a match with Uruguay to get an automatic spot and I wouldn’t count on them losing to any of the CONCACAF teams in a playoff.
Our latest news is that Andrey’s full 90 minutes (and he looked sharp in the highlights I saw) will keep him out for us for at least the next two matches. Rosicky, however, played an hour and will be available.
ManCity is a big game for both us and them. We need a result after the injustice/idiocy of our trip to United and they need a good performance (at least) as they’ve got the Manchester derby in a week. It sounds like Tevez is out and Robinho might be, so in the end it may come down to how their ex-Arsenal players perform.
@ HTS,
you’re so right, no need for anyone to shed a tear for Argentina. Their talent pool is extensive. Reality is that if you have no playing form, then you can only hope for ‘miracle’!
With their backs to the wall, I thought for sure they would defeat Paraguay. For some reason, the players are not responding to Maradona. Faith & conviction are important and seem to be missing with the team; almost identical situation as with the French national team.
Uraguay, will go into the match with confidence and upsets are apart of every sport; even the CONCACAF team could surprise.
“you’re so right, no need for anyone to shed a tear for Argentina.”
Well crafted, arsesession. ;-)
I see Hleb admits he has gone backwards….I think a few of us predicted that. Barca are an unforgiving club, expensive imports who don’t measure up are normally ditched pretty quick.
Personally I’d rather have Arshavin anyway. Arsh is a man for the big ocassion, who would you rather have in a major game?
Agreed that I’d rather have Arshavin but he was approx. 50% more expensive so you’d think he would be more valuable. And he makes goals. Retaining Hleb in no way would have allowed us to let Ade depart.
Ah hindsight….Hleb wishes he’d stayed and so do we. It was such a blow to lose him along with Flamini and Rosicky. Cesc did the best he could but the endless season and playing with the youth project (Denilson, Song and Diaby) exposed his game quite a bit and made for a long and dreary season with little realistic hope.
Personally, I believe that Hleb, Cesc, Arshavin and Rosicky are ALL great players but they all need (at least) very good players around them to shine. Hleb is one of the finest dribblers around but needed wise players to get open for a final touch before getting the typical (English) crunch that would end his runs. Cesc is a passer and field general without peer, but also needs outlets as he can’t physically outplay a defense on his own. Arshavin drifts and drifts and then strikes with guile AND venom. Rosicky, as I recall, actually has the most rounded game, quick, tough, able to round defenders and/or spot a pass and unafraid to take a shot or get in on a tackle. My dream is that he can look a lot like Iniesta does for Barca….
My real point is that all of these players add value to a strong team but alone cannot appreciably raise the team’s level on their own.
Capello is impressive indeed. It’s a different talent to Arsene’s or Fergie’s. Whereas AW & AF have created legacies at their respective clubs, Capello like Hiddink are the ultimate hired guns. They ride into town, do what they came to do, and ride off.
I’ve never felt much warmth toward Argentina, Brazil yes, but the Argie’s are a bit too cynical for me. Yet not having Messi would be a tragedy of sorts. It would be a lesser WC if we did not have one of the worlds best 2 players? A lot of teams will sleep a bit easier, drawing Argentina in the quarters or semi’s is not a good thought.
The more so impressive is Capello never managed a national team before. And unlike club sides you don’t get to buy players for national team. His England side is pretty much formed by the same old backbone of Big Mac era.
What a difference a manager can make!
Throughout my life watching football, I never seen Argentina fail to qualify for the World Cup. It would be the shock of the millennium in the football world that they fail to qualify for WC2010.
There is something about Capello, the steely confidence of a man who knows how to produce winners in an environment that leaves almost all aspirants empty and tormented souls. Admitedly his teams aren’t often praised for playing the beautiful game – but he knows how to deliver winners. He extracts the maximum output from the material he has available.
It’s encouraging to see the plethora of Arsenal players who are re-emerging as key figures for their national teams. Arshavin, RvP, Eduardo, Fabregas, Rosicky are now joined by the likes of Bendtner and Ramsey as key contributors. We just need the injury worm to turn a little. For these guys to be available more often than not. And for the crocks to repay Arsene’s long suffering faith in them. My goodness they owe it to the man – big time.
IMO Capello is probably one of the best, if not the best in the game.
His record that every club he managed he won a trophy for them is something quite remarkable. And the fact that he had managed so many different clubs and being equally successful with all of them making him quite unique.
Andez: Dont get you self into a huff. I knew exactly what you meant.
It wasnt exactly blaming God. It was NOT blaming Wenger for not having a backup plan. It was NOT blaming Wenger for going into a full-season while expecting Eduardo and Rosicky to be contributors.
You try to pass off these blunders as bad luck and that is simply not true.
BTW Fred, when I wrote “God is not an Arsenal fan”, it was meant to be a joke. I used it once, and had no intention to use it twice. I have no religion myself, but I do not have any intention to offend any Catholic or Christian.
So I’d appreciated you STOP making the meal out of it. And leaving God alone. If anyone had read my original post, he should have known what I meant – that at times, I felt we were destined to lose a match. That everything could go wrong went wrong. And I also criticized our players’ tendency to GIFT away crucial goals and compared them to Santa Claus.
Perhaps it’s a bad joke (that citing God is not an Arsenal fan), yes. But I had NO intention to make him a scapegoat. Perhaps I should have simply written “Luck was not on our side”. My mistake. I apologize.
So cut it out now. It’s NOT funny.
ahem, Andez, Catholics ARE Christians… :)
On a non-religous note…There are quite a few “macro” events occuring in the game today that could seriously alter the status quo.
FIFA,UEFA,FA are saber rattling. Transfer bans for stealing “kids”, player bans for breaking rules enforced after the fact, potential team bans if finances aren’t in order, etc
Credit crunch, gov’t debt, economic uncertainty. Higher tax rates makes EPL less attractive, less consumption by consumers potentially lower gate and marketing, less lending could create issues for teams that need to “roll over” their debts, etc
What are the implications for Aresenal and our competitors if some or all of these events come together? Who is in the best position to ride out any storm or a change to the new world “order”? My general assessment is that Arsenal are better positioned than most of our peers should some or all of these events continue to unfold in an unfavorable manner.
I am not sure if I remember it correctly, hadn’t Sepp Blatter once clamined footballers are like “slaves”? Thus in his opinion, footballers should be allowed to have more freedom moving clubs.
And then, now his FIFA decided there may be a need to ban all transfer activities for players under 18.
I’ve given up trying to work out their logic.
Wherever there are regulations you kill progress. Not only football.. its true of life. But FIFA being a “regulatory” body have to do something. So they blab.. you also forgot the gem about women footballers should wear shorter skirts – Sepp Blatter again. Platini is doing well licking his boots.
p.s.. If Eduardo dived today..if if.. and England lose .. what happens then? Do FIFA shut up coz England got screwed or do they ban Dudu again?
Fred,
You cannot deny injury at least part of it is down to bad luck. Take Pires’ injury back in 2002, he was jumping to avoid a tackle, yet hurt himself when he landed. Who to blame? Wenger?
van Persie injuried when he’s away with Holland two seasons ago, who to blame? Wenger?
Walcott hurt his shoulder while training with England. Who to blame? Wenger?
Eduardo got chopped down from behind by Taylor. Who to blame? Wenger? Had him being 6 foot 7, would he have escaped that tackle from behind unhurt?
Vieira was a giant, yet he was bothered by a knee problem constantly towards the later part of his Arsenal career.
Adams was a giant as well, yet in his last season he only managed to make 10 appearances for Arsenal.
Edu out for an entire year the moment he left Arsenal. Who to blame? Wenger?
Pires suffered the same fate after he left Arsenal. Who to blame? Wenger?
Owen Hargreaves hardly even played since he joined Man U. who to blame? Wenger?
Andez,
Are we the ONLY team in the world with injuries????
How many of Chelsea’s players were out last season???
The way you talk it is as if you believe it is only Arsenal that has injuries.
LOL.
It is funny you talk about Adams, Edu, Pires and co.
Because back then we could lose those players and still have competent backup players and STILL WIN FREAKING TITLES.
Who is the back up for Song? Answer that question.
I am almost certain we wont come close to winning anything (again) because of the same old reasons.
Just get a freaking DM and give us defensive SECURITY …. but no, Wenger wont do it.
Instead Song, who is the ONLY DM at the club is still being touted by Wenger as a CB. It just goes to show that Wenger does not even value the concept of a DM. He thinks it is not important at all. Even in a small, slow flair based midfield that he created he does not see the need in getting an experienced man, to WIN the ball and give the flair players breathing room!
So when Song gets a niggling injury, or a suspension or gets called to CB because of injuries there or goes to the ANC, we will have absolutely NOBODY guarding the defense. Then we will get raped.
Then you will have Wenger biting his nails and kicking bottles down the touchline. And asking us to judge the team the NEXT season instead!
Writing your own team off after just one month? Nice.
If your son is smart BUT does not study for an exam he will still FAIL the test … despite the fact you love him and pray he succeeds.
That is a fact of life, Andez.
You will rather blame failure on God.
So Tevez has been ruled out for the match this weekend…
And Robinho is also POSSIBLY out with a calf strain from last season.
Our boy Timmy the Tooth (7amkickoff.com) has a good one today about international football. And DAG has hit all the main points today above.
It seems to me that as the world shrinks through our televisions football fans the world over are going to demand (i.e., reward) the highest quality football they can see and lesser versions are going to lose out. Kiwi, above, points out why the EPL may have seen it’s glory years, and the Spanish league is looking pretty revived with Barca’s attractive CL victory and the huge money being pumped in at Madrid. At this point both Leagues (and several others) offer football far better than the average match in the international tournaments. UEFA need to revamp their marquee tournament (the Champions League) sooner than later or we’re gonna start hearing about a European Super League (again). Painful as it is we have to accept that the powers that be (FIFA, UEFA, the National FAs) will do whatever stupid things they will do as they cling to power against the tide of change. For Arsenal that means a one-off suspension for Eduardo (which excites English Nationalism) rather than a full-fledged effort to really address the problem. It’s a reaction that is so far from reasonable that I think it will work to our advantage (at least in the CL). But, of course, only time will tell….
speaking of the size of the pitch, i just got hold of a stats back in 2007 (provided the clubs had not altered the size), I think it’s interesting to share with you guys here to have a rough idea on how big a pitch ourselves and other opposition clubs really have (sometimes we can’t really tell from the telly):
Here are the top 20 pitches ranked in order of size. The large number after the size of the pitch is calculated by multiplying the length and width of the pitch (in yards):
1. Manchester City, City of Manchester Stadium, 116 x 77 yards, 8932
2. Manchester United, Old Trafford, 116 x 76 yards, 8816
3. Blackburn Rovers, Ewood Park, 115 x 76 yards, 8740
4. Everton, Goodison Park, 112 x 78 yards, 8736
5. Aston Villa, Villa Park, 114 x 75 yards, 8550
6. Middlesbrough, Riverside, 114 x 75 yards, 8550
7. Arsenal, Emirates Stadium, 114 x 74 yards, 8436
8. Derby County, Pride Park, 114 x 74 yards, 8436
9. Reading, Madjeski Stadium, 111 x 76 yards, 8436
10. Sunderland, Stadium of Light, 114 x 74 yards, 8436
11. Wigan Athletic, JJB Stadium, 114 x 74 yards, 8436
12. Portsmouth, Fratton Park, 115 x 73 yards, 8395
13. Chelsea, Stamford Bridge, 110 x 75 yards, 8250
14. Fulham, Craven Cottage, 110 x 75 yards, 8250
15. Liverpool, Anfield, 110 x 75 yards, 8250
16. Birmingham City, St. Andrews, 110 x 74 yards, 8140
17. Newcastle United, St. James’s Park, 110 x 73 yards, 8030
18. Tottenham Hotspur, White Hart Lane, 110 x 73 yards, 8030
19. Bolton Wanderers, Reebok Stadium, 110 x 72 yards, 7920
20. West Ham United, Boleyn Ground, 110 x 70 yards, 7700
I met a fellow from Stoke this past summer and he told me (he’s a Portvale supporter) that Stoke City narrowed their pitch because of Rory Delap and his throw-ins.
We should be aware of this as should new ManCity captain Kolo Toure, who flailed so remarkably up there last season….
Gael Clichy, Emmanuel Eboue, Abou Diaby. I think the temperament of these three players needs to be called into serious doubt.
As for the collective choking of the team, I put that down to Wenger. It’s not meant as a searing criticism but it’s just fact that a team reflects the mentality of a manager. I can see Wenger in this Arsenal side, both the good and the bad.
The players Wenger has brought in recently seem to be of a stronger mind. Sagna, Eduardo, Vermaelen. Very steely players, and the polar opposite to the pampered little pets that Wenger has reared at Colney. In fact, the longer you play under Wenger, the more you inherit his characteristics of flapping and flailing under pressure. Fabregas and RVP seem to less clinical and cool in recent years.
I’d have to agree with u. Not that AW should shoulder all the blame, but his coaching mentality is unlikely to produce an team with an iron will.
Every player who had played for Wenger had revealed that Wenger’s philosophy is to – allow the players to “express himself on the pitch”.
While the upside of it being more likely to bring the best out of the player and offering creative football with flair.
Downside of it though – this mentality is less likely to produce a team which play with great DISCIPLINE.
When a side do not play with a great sense of discipline, they are more prone to making silly mistakes which cost a game.
So what we need a mix of Arsene and Big Sam?
I think that’s why the combination of Wenger and the George Graham players worked so well. Wenger gave them what they lacked, and those players had the grit and common sense to bring a steadying influence to his flair but fragile management style.
Sorry to everyone to digress.
“Fred Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Andez, sorry to say, God has nothing to with this. LOL.
Conceding stupid goals is what CHOKERS do. Remember how Spurs also do it a lot and we used to laugh at them?
Infact thinking of it a lot of teams concede stupid goals against us too! Why because they are either of inferior quality or they choked under the pressure. Simple.
The injury bug is ALL WENGERS FAULT.
Wenger designed a BIGGER pitch. But at the same time he started buying and progressing SMALLER and SLOWER players.
Before 90% of our team were over 6 ft tall, robust AND fast. And they were even playing on a smaller ground.
Wenger inexplicably made the pitch much bigger while reducing the teams physical size and pace.
Whose fault is that???? Wenger.
And it is also Wenger’s fault for going into a season counting on injured players to perform. Thats what he did last season when he was talking shit about Rosicky and Eduardo being like “new signings”.
So dont talk crap about us being “out of luck” or all that jazz.
I wonder what you will say if Song gets injured and we start being fragile defensively again? Will you blame God for Song being injury prone or will you blame Wenger for not being a freaking backup for a very important position?”
@ Fred,
– Arsenal is a prevalent young team, errors are part of their development; if they continue to repeat the same errors, then there is source of issue for Arsene. I don’t see any of our field players as “CHOKERS”.
– Judging Arsene the fault for our series of injuries is a bit harsh. Maybe those responsible for our training routines need reevaluation. Play in the EPL is very physical & officials tend to allow greater contact. Just check out the other teams and you’ll see we are not alone on injury issues.
– One of the first learning points (for me) in soccer is that no one can outrun the ball and 2nd, the ball never gets tired. Obviously the larger pitch gives you more space. There is a school of thought that this is an advantage for a team whose attack is built on combination play. Wear the other team down, by forcing them to chase; the mental errors will follow.
– Yes, Arsenal’s earlier success was built around taller-faster players, but as for player selection, size does not eliminate injury issues. Look at Chelski last season, Ballack, Drogba, Essian – all missed large gaps of matches due to injuries. Torres (at Pool) is constantly dealing with hamstring issues. Viduka is another example.
– I believe Chelski could complain the loudest because of injuries (to the above 3, add Joe Cole) for their hard luck last season, AND look at their roster (experience), and they still did not have enough bench strength to overcome injuries to key players.
*this is where a Manager’s worth comes into play, finding solutions from your bench. Just as Barca had to improvise in the CL final. Yes, our bench is experience light, but this is how our manager wishes to build for the future.
We all wanted Arsene to sign a back up at holding midfielder – he didn’t. I believe he has someone else in mind to fill in Song’s absence if for injury or ACN. Lets wait and see his solution.
I totally agree.
One of AW’s trademark coaching style is his attention on players’ FITNESS.
A book I read about AW revealing Arsenal’s fitness training facility is second to none.
Injury is something we cannot explain. To me, more or less it’s down to bad luck.
During our 2002 and 2004 campaign,we won the titles with a relatively healthy squad. Same manager, same fitness training method.
To blame the injury to the SIZE OF THE PITCH even more ridaculous!!
Can’t believe i actually read stuff like that! LOL
Emirates is big, but it’s by no mean an unusually large pitch. Is Old Trafford any smaller?
Only that we were used to see Arsenal playing at Highbury, where Highbury itself was famous for its smaller playing pitch, which in truth, is not an ideal situation. as while we did enjoy an advantage at home with oppositins not used to playing in a smaller pitch, when came to our term to play away, particular in the Champions League, the team needed a lot of adjustment.
In recent years, our results in Champions League had significantly better than the Highbury era.
Back then, even when we drew against weaker oppositions, from time to time we were still struggling to qualify from the group stage, despite having a probably stronger side.
We did well playing away in the league, but Champions League is a different story, as teams generally PASS the ball much better.
Arsene built a team with a differently style from the invicible years to go along with the new bigger pitch.
Whereas at the past we were built on quick, tall, strong athletic players to take full advantage of the narrrow surface of Highbury, in a more direct style of attack; today, we are full of skillful, intellgent ball players who are more at home with a slow tempo game, a style which more suits a larger pitch.
Andez,
No, the tall, strong players were an advantage on EVERY pitch not just our small pitch.
Its hilarious you think my blaming the injury situation on Wenger is preposterous, meanwhile YOU blame it God!!!!
LOOOOOOL!
@ arsesession:
Arsenal players are majority chokers.
I do NOT care they being “young”. It is Wenger’s fantasy to have a young team not mine.
It is not even cheaper to have a young team!
It is much, much better to have relatively unknown, but cold-blooded and competent mid-twenties players like Vermalean, Eduardo, Arshavin.
That is exactly what Wenger used to do when he used to buy Ljunberg, Pires, etc.
It is 100% his fault if he has no backup…..because injuries are a fact of the game.
No need “blaming God”.
@ Fred,
Look, I disagree with your broad labeling of our players. I have watched matches over the last year where Lampard, Gerrard, Torres, Rooney, Ronaldo, Drogba, Anelka, Ballack, Tevez, Messi, Ka Ka, Eto’o, Ibrahimovich, etc. all had moments were they chocked at key moments of a match. I do not see where the Arsenal players are prone to greater frequency of mistakes! (except Almunia)
Only at holding midfield & GK do I see a lack of depth! Is the roster perfect, NO. The season has just started and they are exhibiting the style we all want to see. Lets wait another 3 months, then evaluate positions and weaknesses.
It is one club strategy to buy most of your line up and another concept to build a youth program that feeds the starting eleven. AW is building a system that will hold up for many years, saving the team millions of dollars and become the model of the football community.
Knock on wood, but on Saturday we could find Arsenal with its strongest roster available against City in almost 2 years! Here is my selection, subject to tomorrow’s matches.
————Almunia————-
Sagna/Eboue —Gallas/Senderos—Vermaelen—Clichy/Gibbs
——–Song——————-
—————Denilson/Diaby———-
—-Cesc/Ramsey———————–
Rosicky/Theo—————-Arshavin/Wilshere
———Bendtner/RvP—————
So Fred, how would you line up?
I think you mistake very consistent players having a bad game with choking!
Arsenal players have perfected the art of playing very well for 95% of games then wilting when some pressure is applied to them.
That IS choking.
Torres having a bad day and missing several chances is NOT choking. Dont mistake the two.
PS: What youth program do we have exactly???
Clichy and Denilson joined us when they were 19. They didnt progress through our academy.
We buy some random 18 year olds from all over the place, most of them rank-mediocre and then call it a youth program.
The only gem we have got through this dodgy method is Fabregas.
And considering FIFA’s new crackdown….we will surely not be able to bring in more Fabregases or Meridas.
We pay the THIRD highest wages in the country so I posit to you that we are NOT “saving the team millions of dollars”.
We also will NOT become a model of the football community. Why? Because, One, FIFA is cracking down on the poaching of international youngsters. Two. Our model is not exactly financially sound. Three. These youngsters are ONLY with us because we have not won anything. The moment, they get 3 months of good press, they are OUT of Arsenal in search for their pay day. That is a fact. We are wasting our time completely with this delusion, sacrificing trophies for youngsters who do not care a hoot about Arsenal or the fans.
As for the lineup, it is interesting you omit Silvestre from the back line! lol.
Its also interesting you have Rosicky and Theo on the right considering both have not started a single game this season.
When Arshavin was injured Wenger brought in Ramsey over Wilshere – even though we were chasing the game.
AW continues to waste Bendtner on the wings. Infact I think Wenger is the only coach in the world who would waste a big man like that on the wings instead of letting him gradually gain confidence in the center.
Bendtner plays centrally for Denmark and does VERY well. RvP plays on the wings of a 4-3-3 for the Netherlands and plays very well.
YET…Wenger switches them inexplicibly!
So we are going to see more of Bendtner sending in a beautiful cross that neither Eduardo or RvP can do justice to.
Central defenders used to cage Henry and even Adebayor in tough games. They will have a lot of joy pocketing RvP and Eduardo.
Frankly, I am getting tired of everyday log on to the internet and seeing the Eduardo DIVE incident being discussed again and again in the press by players, media the likes.
Finally, someone came out and saying something which been on my mind for a while.
From David Beckham:
And now the 34-year-old feels enough is enough.
“There has been far too much talk about diving,” said Beckham.
“No-one wants to see it and it is disappointing when it happens. But it happens every week and Eduardo is not the first person to have done it.
“The whole thing should be put to bed. Eduardo is a great player. It is not that long ago that he suffered an horrific injury.
“You don’t know what was going through his mind. He might have been trying to get out of the way of a tackle so he didn’t get injured again.”
Andez –
I went back and forth on this one. I feel the same way you do. Every day now there is a story about someone diving or someone tapping up a youngster. Frankly I am tired of it.
Conversely, I do think it merits discussion (at least during the international break ;-) )because I think some dangerous precedents are being established.
There was more to my article I had wanted to write but I didn’t want something that would’ve been 90 pages long.
I feel the same way as you DAG. Personally I feel that the football “authority” are the most clueless among all sports.
Take World Cup 2004, they intro a new rule right before the tournament (as they always did, experiment a new regulation before a MAJOR TOURNAMENT, figure that out!), and resulted to a whole lot of players being sent off in early rounds.
Eventually they realized what a mess they put themsleves into, before changning the instruction to the refs.
And they are PAID for making decisions like that????
The Eduardo incident, the biggest flaw IMO is – if they intended to stamp out diving, they should have announced to the world that they were planning to do so BEFORE the CL qualifying round started.
You don’t start applying a new rule when the tournament already underway.
I read that Platini had since come out and said – they are not planning to review every diving incident since.
So what’s going on? You banned Eduardo based on post match video review, yet you are not planning to consistently doing the same thing for the remaining part of the tournament?
if this is not called “witch hunt”, what else is?
WC 2006 i should say
As an opening comment I would imagine that in coming years the British tax regime will have a rather natural dampening impact upon the EPL. The high marginal tax rates in Britain will make other European leagues with significantly lower tax rates more attractive destinations for professional footballers.
In addition to extreme marginal tax rates, England already has a less welcoming climate with destinations like Manchester and Liverpool hardly conjuring up romantic images. Contrast the sophisticated cities with their pleasing climes of Barcelona, Madrid and Milan.
So the English taxman is already doing his bit for Platini.
Whilst there does seem to be a certain frustration toward the EPL’s success, I would imagine this is typical tall poppie syndrome. All of Europe, with its perculiar mix of cultures and histories is raked with this silliness.
At the core there is merit in the causes that have been highlighted. Cheating (in all forms) and unsavoury transfer practices should be regulated. Where the authorities are erring is the random and disorganised manner in which it is being approached and implemented. The issues of financial doping and the ridiculous and inflationary remuneration levels should also be curbed.
As with all regulatory matters, there needs to be a sense of tranparency and equity. This is where UEFA has failed. Picking off Eduardo without warning looks unjust. The situation surrounding Chelsea is unclear. We know they’ve pushed the rules but what exactly have they done wrong in this instance? How can Real and Barcelona get away with their pathetic and repeated tapping-up games year after year?
At this stage Platini and UEFA have the look of vigilanties riding around with a rope. They need to get a framework around what they are doing and make it public. They haven’t done that. When they do people will applaud their attempts to reign in some of footballs excesses.