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The Ethics of Arsenal

By Michael Price
July 18, 2012
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My apologies for not writing sooner. I am knee deep in preparations for a Soccer-related charity and that has pulled my attention away from my beloved Arsenal for a while. But Myles, and the lads have been holding up the fort lately in my absence so well done boys.

But now I want to turn my attention to something that has been on my mind for a while. It’s the appreciation that is leveled at Arsenal for the way they conduct themselves on and off the pitch. For a lack of better terms I will call this the ethics of Arsenal.

Arsenal are considered by many to be a model of how a club should be run. Starting with the self-sustainability model that uses the clubs own profit intake to invest back into club. What feeds into this profit?

There are the various commercial activities, match day revenue (gate receipts and concessions), transfer activities (sales), etc. We know them all as it seems to be the constant source of discussion amongst the faithful. All that goes back into the club and not a shred of debt is raised to fund living beyond our means. Truly an exemplary model.

I agree and whole-heartedly support this way forward.

On the pitch, the way that Arsenal play and how they develop players we are told is the envy of many clubs. Arsene’s reptutation may be tarnished to some here in England but across Europe he continues to get accolades for his talent development and the way his teams play.

If we’re honest both the on-field and off field models are the right way to do things. They show that even in the current state of football there is a ‘right’ way to do things.

But at closer scrutiny are we really a club that should be that admired? Is this club ‘ethical’ in it’s self-sustainable model when it  gets to be self-sustainable primarily off the backs of its own supporters?

As we mentioned the model is admirable. It is the right to do things to insure that the club isn’t weighed down with debt that will ultimately catch up with the club. United’s transfer activities these last two summers are a direct result of their pinch they are starting to feel. Their IPO floated in New York and establishment of a business address in the Cayman Islands are a creative way to address the debt issues they are having. If you think Barcelona and Madrid have largely been quiet on the transfer market because they are happy with their squads  – you are wrong. City and Chelsea – well let’s not talk about them.

So on the whole debt avoidance issue, Arsenal are admirable. But how they get there makes my stomach churn. Arsenal again this week announced ticket price changes.

First they came out and announced a 23% price decrease on Category C tickets. So that ticket now costs £25.50 vs £35. Category C games are against opponents like Sunderland and  Swansea.

Category B tickets have been reduced by 50p and will be against teams like West Ham and QPR.

In the least shocking announcement is that Category A seats will be INCREASED by 23%. So a ticket last season that was already a high £51 now costs £62. This is for your teams like Chelsea.

These ticket adjustments we are told are in response to the board’s meetings with AST and AISA.  It’s meant to show us that they are listening and taking into account what we the supporters want.

But can you sit here and justify a 23% decrease on one ticket and a 23% increase on an other. On top of the across the board 6% increase from last season? At best it seems misguided at worst – completely dishonest.

No one would argue against the club’s need to be  self-reliant. But in this day and age when people across England and the world are hard pressed to give up their hard earned cash, it seems inconceivable that the club would try and milk more money from ticket holders under the guise of a ticket reduction.

Where is the connection to the fans? Where is the understanding of the current market economics? Recently Ivan Gazidis admitted that Arsenal were over reliant on their match day receipts and season ticket earnings. At the time it seemed to imply that the understood that price rises were not something they wanted to do. A lot of us took heart by that.

The supporters of this club are the only constant. In a day when a player and coaches depart for their next big deal and clubs are sold to the highest bidder it is the fan who always is there. They are easy targets because club’s like Arsenal know – they will always come back. The thought process is that there will always be a fount of fans to fill the seats. And while that remains and our owner and board put some of THEIR OWN MONEY into the club – the supporters will be the ones that continue to get fleeced.

Something has to give. Arsenal for their part do seem to be addressing the commercial disadvantage they have against their competitors. The wage system at the club is slowly being restructured to be more based on merit rather than promise. I point out these two areas because the lack of significant commercial dealings forces us to be over reliant on the money of the supporters and the wage system is where a lot of that hard earned cash goes to.

I understand that our shiny not-so-new stadium requires fees  to pay it off and that this is a different era in football. But before last season’s 6% rise Arsenal supporters were already paying the highest ticket prices in Europe.  The rise and decrease to me does nothing substantial to make the game more accessible or available to fans.  It seems to be a short-term panacea and what you likely can expect is that at some point soon all prices will go back up, citing something like inflation or something similar.

I want our model to succeed. I like that we hold an ‘ethical’ line in the face of an environment of constant change and unsustainable financial models. But those ‘ethics’ can’t be thrown in our faces when it those ‘ethics’ come at the cost of the fans’ hard earned cash.

Other Bits and Bobs

Looks like Carlos Vela is out of here with Arsenal agreeing to terms for the Mexican Forward with Real Sociedad. The terms are reported as £3 million fee with add-ons and a 50% sell-on clause for Arsenal.

Vela never truly lived up to his potential at Arsenal and was in my opinion part of the problem around this club. When it became evident in training and on the pitch that Carlos wouldn’t make it here he should’ve been gone. He came into training numerous times clearly out of shape. Didn’t show the desire to learn the language and overall his work ethic seemed questionable.

The season-long loan seemed to do him some good and by all accounts it was beneficial to both sides and now he’s gone. Sorry to say I won’t miss him but I will be saddened that he seemed to be another project we held on too long to.

On the Van Persie front not much to report except that the press is rampant with wild speculation about what’s going on. Yesterday for example the Independent reported that Juventus are Van Persie’s desired location. That was followed by a report in the Daily Star that Van Persie had shunned a £300k per week deal at Juve to make a move to City. Then there are the endless Robin is in Manchester looking at houses stories floating out there.

What’s at all really mean? No one knows fuck all. The big story this week though was that all the major press were reporting that the statement was really intended as a Rooney-eque ploy to get more money from Arsenal. It is believed that Wenger and Robin will sit down together (likely without Gazidis or RvP reps) and talk this out. The hope is that one way or the other Arsenal and Van Persie have a way forward before the club departs for Asia.

That’s it for today. More on Friday (hopefully).

Until then – Stay Goonerish!!!

 

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Michael Price

Founder, editor, writer, designer of YouAreMyArsenal.com. When he’s not following the Arsenal,he’s busy coaching various age groups the right way to play the beautiful game I am neurotic. Well, Arsenal tends to do that to you and due to this maddening love affair I have with this team across the sea, I rise and fall like everyday (given our current state some times more than 5 times a day.) I love this team and hope it comes through even slightly with this blog. If I am not here blogging away, I am either working or writing coaching sessions. All in all, I'm loving it. UTA!

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  1. stag133 20 July, 2012 at 13:11 Log in to Reply

    George Graham, stating the facts:

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1125832/george-graham:-arsenal-are-no-longer-contenders?cc=5901

    We are no longer contenders.
    And the club need to tell the fans just that:
    We can NOT compete with City, United and Chelsea.
    Sell RVP (away from the EPL)… lower ticket prices, embrace your supporters, and move on.

    We can accept the truth, just don’t piss on us and tell us its a lovely warm rain.

  2. Kiwi 20 July, 2012 at 00:36 Log in to Reply

    The more I read about Jurgen Klopp the more he seems to be the right fit for Arsenal. He’s a man who seems to thrive on a challenge against a giant. Bayern is enormous in Germany and there are 2 or 3 other well-run clubs that challenge as well. In this context you have to admire the way he has skillfully led Dortmund to trophies and as is said below pragmatically restocked when a big-boy comes in a steals one of his stars.

    Almost every club suffers from some of its best players leaving, even ManU lost Ronaldo, in a sense that’s life, the test is whether you can recalibrate. Klopp looks as though he can.

    I’m not inferring Klopp is holy grail… more-so using him as an example of what Wenger used to do rather well and what we now need. A shame Klopp just signed an extension. Still… we’d do worse than keeping him on the radar. He genuinely seems to be the right type of manager his fiesty clever attitude is exactly what is needed.

  3. Caribkid 19 July, 2012 at 21:29 Log in to Reply

    Manu is indeed a self sustaining club and they have done that while winning. In fact, winning is the key to their success and self sustainability.

    The Manu training kit endorsement is bigger than our entire kit commercial revenue. Why? because success breeds success and the big boys only want to be linked with success stories.

    Manu still shows a profit even after paying out some 50M in debt interest. If their IPO takes off we are going to be in even bigger shit because we will now have to contend with big spenders in Chelsea, City and Manure. That will leave us battling it out with Newcastle, Everton, QPR, Spuds and Fulham for 4th place.

    When we won as “The Invincibles” we had the largest player budget in the BPL. But apart from that, Wenger must share most of the blame for failure since his youth policy, player acquisition, and parity salary structure has failed miserably.

  4. George 19 July, 2012 at 07:22 Log in to Reply

    @Caribkid,
    The acid test where we can determine the board and arsene’s mentality is for example if we say Juventus offered £17 million and Man City offered £25 million. Now if the board had any sense or ambition then they would accept the bid from Juve and get him out of the EPL, but if they simply read the number on the cheque and sell to City again, and most likely not even invest the money back into the team then we know they don’t care about the team

    • stag133 19 July, 2012 at 14:09 Log in to Reply

      @George, yes. I have said that about 10 times!
      You simply don’t sell VanPersie to City or United.

      But I’d bet Arsenal do…

    • Caribkid 19 July, 2012 at 21:18 Log in to Reply

      @George,

      100% in agreement George. Selling RVP to City or Manure would move us from the realm of “Self Sustaining” to “Self Defeating”.

      • George 19 July, 2012 at 21:26 Log in to Reply

        @Caribkid,
        Sorry to keep banging on about Dortmund again, but I suppose they are the team to look at it if you want a self-sustaining model that works well. Look at them, sell Kagawa to a team overseas so not helping out a rival, and then bringing in Marco Reus; a quality replacement for that player. Exactly what we need to do, e.g. Fabregas out, Mata/Cazorla in or Van Persie out, Higuain/Pato/Jovetic in

        • Caribkid 19 July, 2012 at 22:06

          @George,

          Once again, I’m in total agreement. After a few turbulent first years with the owner, Newcastle seems to turned things around and doing quite well. Tottenham, with the acquisition of Vertonghen and Siguurdson, and the signing of Ade seems to also be going about things astutely.

  5. Kiwi 18 July, 2012 at 23:15 Log in to Reply

    I agree George.
    Unfortunately as a club we have stopped challenging ourselves and asking the right questions. Instead of looking at Borussia Dortmund, Montpellier and Bordeaux and taking inspiration and insight on how to win despite the presence of ‘richer’ competitors we seem to have settled into a complacent space with low aspiration and hoping for better days ahead. A space where Wenger fiddles with his wonts and sneers disdainfully when questioned.

  6. Kiwi 18 July, 2012 at 22:45 Log in to Reply

    Ethics and football is a bit of a go-nowhere topic. It wholly depends on where you sit as to what looks ethical. There is a lot of irony in your post DAG. On the one hand you hail the club’s fiscal principles… until it hits you in the pocket.

    A more relevant discussion may be an analysis of Arsenal FC’s fiscal effectiveness. I for one question how effective Wenger is in, (i) getting value out of Arsenal’s resources, and (ii) using Arsenal’s resources to achieve on-field success. It seems to me Wenger’s aspirations are skewed toward his personal wonts, and not the club’s on-field targets. He obviously has fiscal parameters that are agreed by the club and that he meets but I do not believe he is an effective steward of using the massive wage-bill and transfers funds available to turn Arsenal into a winning club again.

    This conversation on effectiveness simply never happens. Everything is swept under the rug of ‘sustainable model’ and ‘changed operating environment’. It’s bollocks. Arsenal are a very wealthy club and in very good fiscal health. We have the enabling environment. Sure, we have to box smart to usurp Manchester City and to lesser degrees Chelsea and then Manchester United… but to simply ‘give up’ and accept fourth place is a ridiculous concession given how well placed we are to compete.

    We are hamstrung by Wenger’s approach to transfers and the wage structure he has instituted. I’ve raised this for years and only now are some started to twig – rewarding non-performance is the opposite of a sustainable business model. And why does every discussion on transfers have to go to extremes? Why haven’t we used the money from transfers to restock with genuine talet that can perform immediately?

    This conversation needs to happen. Sadly there doesn’t seem to be the necessary intellectual grunt and courage to tackle this.

    • joshuad 19 July, 2012 at 01:51 Log in to Reply

      @Kiwi, you hit the nail on the head, kiwi. one caveat is much of the blame is being placed on wenger. how much of this fiscal ineffectiveness is actually arsene wenger’s fault and how much is the board’s? it’s one of those things; we really don’t know what goes on behind closed doors.

      what we do know is wenger is very loyal, both to his players and the club. concerning the players, you can count on one hand the number of players that have ever said anything remotely negative about wenger; including the recent exodus of top players. concerning the club, once they make a decision, arsene strikes me as the type to move out and do his best to execute their intent as if it’s his own.

      i think arsene wants to win. we see him stressed to the max on the sideline every weekend. is this fiscal ineffectiveness his doing or the board? we’ve all read theories and even made up some that seem easy to believe. i believe there is a more significant factor that we just don’t know. fabregas, clichy, nasri, and van persie might know it, but i don’t think we do.

      • Kiwi 19 July, 2012 at 03:24 Log in to Reply

        @joshuad,

        No caveat needed.

        We spend a huge amount of time discussing Arsenal affairs and it is reality that we don’t have complete information on anything. For instance, you talk with some certainty on medical matters with Arsenal players and yet I doubt you speak to Arsenal doctors, the players, nor see their medical files, x-rays and scans. But, nevertheless you feel confident enough to make a case for this or that.

        Let’s apply the same logic to the question of assessing Wenger’s use of Arsenal funds. True, we don’t know what ‘the board’ does or doesn’t do IN DETAIL but we do know the role of the board vis a vis the role of Wenger as manager. And we do know that Wenger has been at Arsenal for an extraordinary amount of time and built up a huge amount of goodwill with the board. We know with certainty that the current board relies enormously on Wenger and has allowed him a huge hand in shaping the club in many ways and most definitely on his playing staff. And we know from what we read that the board and Wenger have agreed some broad parameters on the size of the transfer/wage budget which seems sensible. So…I am as confident as I am about anything in saying that Wenger and Wenger alone makes the decisions with players – who he buys, retains and sells. The only time the board would be involved is (i) to negotiate contracts (likely to be Gazidis), and (ii) to ratify contracts (all board at meetings), and (iii) perhaps discussions on a marquee player when it turns to custard (like Fabregas and RvP) – but even this later involvement may depend on timing and whether it fits with the board meeting dates. It is quite possible that Hillwood and Gazidis may work on this with Wenger and do a ring-around if they feel it is needed. That is how boards operate. Boards meet at most once a month and they have a tight agenda – the real stuff happens before the board meeting between the key actors and decisions get presented to the board for ratification.

        So to allude that the management of the playing staff is in some way the responsibility of the board is a bit silly. Maybe you don’t know how boards work, or maybe you just like Wenger and find it easier to place responsibility on a faceless board. I read Wenger is the highest paid manager in the EPL and gets 7m pounds – which in itself is utterly amazing – so I think he is in a role where there needs to be some accountability. It seems to me that with some fans Wenger gets all the upside (credit) and none of the downside. When things go right it’s his brilliance, but when things go wrong it’s the board, Abramovich, a sheikh, Ferguson, bad luck, or something ‘we don’t know’ – but never Wenger.

        I think we have to man-up and ask some hard questions about Wenger’s management of the wage/transfer bucket and how we never come close to challenging.

  7. Caribkid 18 July, 2012 at 21:18 Log in to Reply

    Guys, guys, guys,

    Why don’t you get it! FFP was backed by the big clubs in order to keep the current “big boys” at the top of the food chain with the exception of a few big spenders who can manipulate the loopholes provided like City, Malaga and PSG.

    When all the rules are enforced small clubs will never have a chance, like in the past, of becoming rich and reaching the top. This will eventually lead to a Super League where there will be a transition to the US system of salary caps and probably no demotions or promotions. The majority of the seats will be held by corporations so they can entertain their clients and the little man won’t be able to afford a single ticket much less season tickets.

    Think about it guys, do you really expect the rich and wealthy to vote for something which is not going to benefit the? Think again.

    • George 18 July, 2012 at 21:32 Log in to Reply

      @Caribkid,
      Tell that to Gazidis, although he probably won’t believe you.

    • stag133 19 July, 2012 at 02:36 Log in to Reply

      @Caribkid, I just read an article on soccernet that holds ManU up as an example of being a top self-sustaining club… because they are the most commercially successful club in the WORLD.

      Ferguson has already boasted that RVP will be going to ManU for 20 Million GBP.

      Why would Arsenal FC sell their best player to Manchester United?
      Is 20 Million GBP more important that the club being competitive, viable, relevant???

      I know they don’t care about the fans at all… but I’d rather see (and most would) Arsenal sell RVP to Italy, Spain or anywhere but the EPL… for 10 Million, 12 Million… whatever the price.
      It would make more sense, regardless of the price… to sell him to another league.

      Selling him to United or City would = surrender.
      It will be a yard stick to see where Arsenal FC really stand, and where they see themselves… if it is at all important
      to the club to try to actually compete for in the league.
      If they are … if Wenger and the Board want to actually WIN… they’d NEVER sell their best player to a rival.
      NEVER.

  8. S J Little 18 July, 2012 at 17:06 Log in to Reply

    Arsenal fans fed up with lack of drive and inititive.

    • Caribkid 18 July, 2012 at 21:03 Log in to Reply

      @S J Little,

      Amen

  9. S J Little 18 July, 2012 at 17:04 Log in to Reply

    Arsenal have lost the plot. Fans fed up.
    Board needs replacing.

  10. George 18 July, 2012 at 17:03 Log in to Reply

    Hey, I’d have no problem with a self-sustaining model if it meant us as supporters didn’t get mugged off on ticket prices. I remember going to Arsenal vs West Brom last season where we won 3-0 and the tickets were £50 each which was ridiculous. The fact is, not having a sugar daddy means we have to be astute and quick in the transfer market and before anyone says that can’t work look at Dortmund, they’ve won back to back league titles including their clubs first ever double by doing exactly that. Two or maybe even Three at a stretch astute signings plus one superstar as replacement using the money we get for Van Persie would be fine. Instead the club mug us off making us pay ridiculous money and not even investing that money back in the team

    • stag133 18 July, 2012 at 17:15 Log in to Reply

      @George, exactly on point.

      • Ty 18 July, 2012 at 18:10 Log in to Reply

        @stag133,It works in Germany becausethere is no Abramivic!!! No hyper inflated transfer market. And there are actually good young players who come up trough the academys wich helps if you dont have to buy all your talent.

        • Caribkid 18 July, 2012 at 21:06

          @Ty,

          Then obviously our Academy stinks. Only Cole and Wilshere are of note who has progressed through the Academy. Having the advantage of such superb facilities you have to wonder why we can’t produce similar talent to La Masia.

        • George 18 July, 2012 at 21:31

          @Caribkid,
          Agreed, you got any idea why that might be?

        • Caribkid 19 July, 2012 at 02:36

          @George,

          Not quite certain, but a few things that springs to mind is:

          1. Smaller pool of talent to work with at the local level due to area restrictions. Seems like that might change in the near future.

          2. Selection criteria for trainees. Unlike our European acquisitions, most of our Academites tend to be big, strong boys.

          3. Coaching/Training techniques. At La Masia they don’t even start playing full games until about 11. It’s all about 5 a side, quick passing, shooting drills, ability to retain ball and team cohesiveness. Don’t think Bould and the likes are of the ilk to implement that system.

        • Ty 19 July, 2012 at 16:09

          @Caribkid, The Premier League is providing very limited opportuneties for young english players. And the kick n rush game can only produce two kind of players big strong Forwards who can hold the ball and big slow Cennterbacks who can defend against them thats it. The english youth lacks exactly what Caribkid said Streetfootball mentality you could call it.

        • stag133 19 July, 2012 at 16:39

          @Caribkid, big strong “slow’ centerbacks… stay at home and defend defend defend… like Tony Adams & Sol Campbell?
          yeah.
          I’ll take one of those in my team every day of the week, over small mobile smurfs.

          We play against ENGLISH TEAMS in the league.
          About 2 or 3 have a number of skilled foreign players.
          The rest are mostly playing a British style.

          We counter with small mobile defenders, interested in getting forward.
          Probably why we SUCK at set-pieces, and can’t defend for shit when it matters.

        • George 18 July, 2012 at 21:30

          @Ty,
          No but there is Bayern Munich, the good old traditional Man Utd style powerhouse that get (generally) first choice of all the good German youngsters

  11. g clarke 18 July, 2012 at 16:09 Log in to Reply

    thought spurs were higher

  12. Folud_Gunner 18 July, 2012 at 14:44 Log in to Reply

    You’re so ambivalent, mate! On the one hand you laud the clib’s sustainability model, but on the other decry them for raising ticket prices!! Pray tell where they should find the resources to operate given that commercial deals were agreed many years ago and not due for re-negotiation until 2014?

    As you rightly pointed out, there’s inefficiency in out wage structure but that is also been addressed as you said. All too pften, Arsenal fans blame the club for not making big signing and then blame the club for ticket price rises! Haven’t you forgotten how super-inflated the transfer market has become? Imagine that we’ve just had a bid of £5-6m declined for a 17-year old! That’s the reality of reality of living within one’s means at Arsenal Football Club! If a sugar daddy is bankrolling you, then you may be able to afford not increasing ticket prices. But even Man City with untold billions have significantly increased prices!

    Besides, it seems the Club can’t do anything right these days. Prices have ben reduced to enable more fans to attend on match days. Do we appreciate that as fans? No! We have to find something sinister about it. Arsenal fand must be the most cynical set of fans the world over!

    Besides, Had someone actual done the Mathis in regards to the number of tickets involved in price reduction and increase? Which is more? Also, if people who can afford it are asked to help subsidise those who can’t, how’s that a bad thing?

    Our club is coming under attack from all and sundry why can’t we unite and remain staunch in the support of our club? That’s what I understand by a fan/supporter. But Arsenal FC seems to have loads of fair-weather fans!

    • stag133 18 July, 2012 at 15:30 Log in to Reply

      @Folud_Gunner, Do you work for the club? or are you on the board?
      LoL
      yes, you are correct.
      The Arsenal FC are wonderful.
      They are doing everything well, and doing everything right.

      I mean, we already have the HIGHEST ticket prices in Europe, and we NEVER spend what we make on profits from selling the Captain every year…
      but hey, they lowered prices for games against the dregs of the league.

      I hope you have gone out and bought the new kits for yourself and everyone in your family.
      The club need that extra cash, mate.
      You don’t want to be a fair-weather fan.

      To hell with those season-ticket holders of 25 years… who’ve gone to matches in the rain, cold, sleet… weeknights… long road trips.
      If they can’t afford the new prices, they aren’t REAL fans!

      carry on. buy a scarf.

      • Mjc 18 July, 2012 at 15:39 Log in to Reply

        @stag133, Doesn’t affect season ticket holders….

        • stag133 18 July, 2012 at 17:16

          @Mjc, what doesn’t affect season ticket holders?
          maybe not a price increase, but the HIGHEST TICKET PRICES IN EUROPE, most certainly has priced out long time season ticket holders.

        • Mjc 18 July, 2012 at 18:36

          @stag133, not in my experience. Just tends to be more people sharing season tickets these days….

        • stag133 18 July, 2012 at 21:02

          @Mjc, the season ticket holders I know, are definitely affected by the prices… lucky to go to half the matches, and yes, either ticket share, or selling off games.
          How do you figure that doesn’t affect the fans?

          If you used to go to EVERY match, and now you can only go to half…
          because its so much more expensive?

  13. Nizam 18 July, 2012 at 14:23 Log in to Reply

    Arsenal/Wenger are waiting for ffp to kick in before joinin the transfer market. Assuming a few big teams run foul of the regulations will UEFA seriously carry out its threat to ban them from the cl. Most likely a fine.
    Arsenal and in particular Wenger must realize football has changed. The proble is Wenger thinks his youth policy will bear fruit eventually.
    Imhohe has signed far too many kids who have sadly failed to make the epl grade. Yet the fm is adamant it will work.
    I am afraid if it’s more of the same stuff as in previous season,Arsenal will become a mediocre club and will take a new guy years to restore the club to its former status .

  14. anto 18 July, 2012 at 13:15 Log in to Reply

    kroenkes no good for us.wont invest in playing side.
    we need investment in players.get the fat russian in.

  15. Raj 18 July, 2012 at 12:57 Log in to Reply

    The ticket decisions are not in response to supporters desires, as the club want us to believe.

    Once again, it’s all about the money.

    Most of the games against the lesser lights don’t sell out any more. Partly due to the team not being as good as before, partly to do with the insane prices.

    I’m pretty sure the £35 you quote is for the lower tier tickets, which sell out immediately. The upper tier is a lot more expensive, and often there are thousands of tickets remaining at £50-60. Nobody is going to buy tickets against Wigan at that price.

    They can increase cat A prices all they want, because idiots will still pay £70 to see us get spanked by United and Chelsea.

    This whole move is yet another ‘illusion’ from the club to make us think they’re doing something right, but actually they’re just fleecing us even further.

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