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Match Preview: Arsenal v Wigan Athletic

By Michael Price
September 18, 2009
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There's No Place Like Home!

There's No Place Like Home!

Normally bad things happen in threes, for Arsenal FC they happen in twos. Two losses in Manchester and being in the middle of two administrative maelstroms – Adebayor fiasco and Eduardo’s UEFA ban. Throw in a shaky start to the Champion’s League group stages that saw two goals go in and you get the picture.

In order to put that all behind them and begin moving forward for the season – again – Arsenal must return to their winning ways this game.  While the claw back at Standard de Liege showed some unusual grit for the Gunners, a win this Saturday rights the ship that seems to have hit the rocky shoals in Manchester.

In fairness the two losses in Manchester are gut wrenching because by all indications they should’ve been two wins. For the better part of the United match the Gunners held the play and outclassed Sir Alex Ferguson’s side. In their return to Manchester a fortnight later, the Arsenal let the emotions get the better of them and the defense withered and allowed three quick goals in succession.

Also disconcerting was the way the Standard Liege match got started for the better part of 10 minutes it seemed as Arsenal had forgotten how to pass. Most passes were errant, off the mark and light. Standard capitalized this and within 4 minutes had all Arsenal fans in nightmare mode. Had it not been for their desire to sit back and an absolute quality goal by Nicholas Bendtner, Arsenal could have very well lost that match as well.

But now that they return to the Emirates and once again face a very friendly crowd, they must come out and return to the form that started off the season with emphatic wins at Everton, Celtic and Pompey. They must continue to attack both with the ball and without. One of the early eye catching marks of the season was how at least three players swarmed anyone on the opposition with the ball. That same verve was something seriously missing from the City match.

Additionally, the defense will need to tighten up again and lock down the back third. Vito Mannone needs confidence. The horrendous start to the CL tie in Belgium could not have done much for the young Italian’s psyche. Sagna, Clichy, Vermaelen and Gallas must return to the steadfastness that was prevalent in the start of the season.  As the Times of London quipped, “in the days of famous five at the back (Seaman, Dixon, Keown or Bould, Adams and Winterburn) the need to maintain defensive discipline and shape was banged into the players at every training session. Individual errors were rare” Now they seem to be the rule.

Robin Van Persie who was out with a knee knock for the Champion’s League match returns in time to face the Latics. Andrei Arshavin has a 10% likelihood that he will play. This means the on field creativity has to come from Cesc Fabregas. And if that is to happen, the Arsenal Captain must collect his bags from the airport and firmly return from his away duty in Spain. In all the matches before the international break – even the loss to United – Cesc dictated the midfield. His passing tore apart the opposition and his ability to make plays come out nowhere was a thing of magic. Mark that in contrast to his play since the return from the Spanish National team. His play seems lethargic and lacking the creativity he had prior to the break.  If Arsenal are going to succeed this season, they will need Cesc to raise the level of his play on a more consistent basis.

In the midfield one of the other younglings – namely Song is going to have to step up and show that they can be the midfield screen the team hasn’t really had since Silva and Flamini left. However, as was also highlighted by the Times, Alex has tendency to succumb to positional wondering that pulls him out of the center of the leaving the defense exposed.

In meeting the Latics under the managerial stewardship of Roberto Martinez, they are meeting a team that while still vulnerable is playing with a lot more ability that they did under Steven Bruce. Even in losing to Manchester United, Wigan never backed off the attack; they did not park the bus and try to play for a draw. Until the half against United they looked sharp enough to actually walk away with 3 points.

The team shows ability to learn match from match. After losing to United the Latics were able to turn it around and beat a very promising West Ham United side. Over time, this attractive football is going to develop and the squad should fulfill their potential on the field. Martinez is excited about the budding partnership that is coming up by way of Mohamed Diame and Hugo Rodallega.

The match is promising for an Arsenal side that hasn’t lost to Wigan at home in the last 6 meetings.  In all the Gunners have only lost once to Wigan in 11 ties. Additionally, Wigan have not fared well against any of the big four with no wins in 33 attempts.

The Arsenal training room attendees are well known and Wigan comes in fully fit. All in all with the new attractive form of play the Latics are aspiring to, the game should be open and free flowing – even without the likes of Arshavin or Walcott on the field.

How it will develop?

The fragility and awkwardness of Arsenal’s back four has to be known by Martinez and we should suspect that he will attempt to attack it early. Again, the Latics are playing a style of play that suits Arsene’s boys and as they have shown when a game is open and flowing, they are more than up for the task.  The Gunners will be looking to get some love from the faithful as they haven’t played on Emirates soil except for twice out 6 matches in all competitions. The fans will be more than happy to oblige.

Additionally, look for the Gunners to quickly try and put a line through the whole Adebayor affair that seemed to consume them and the EPL this week.

Injuries:

Arsenal:  Almunia, Fabianski, Walcott, Vela, Denilson, Djourou, Nasri, and Arshavin

Wigan: Oliver Kapo

Probable Starting XI:

Arsenal: Mannone, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Rosicky, Fabregas, Song, Diaby, Van Persie, Bendtner

Wigan: Kirkland, Boyce, Bramble, Figueroa, Melchiot, N’Zogbia, Gomez, Diame, Koumas, Thomas, Rodallega

 Score line:

Arsenal – 4
Wigan – 1

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64 comments

  1. DaAdminGooner 21 September, 2009 at 09:47 Log in to Reply

    Fred –

    I mean this with all the love I can muster – you bitch too much.

    Seriously, what is a manager to do – not protect his players? I would disrespect any manager that did not have his players back. His looking the other way, not seeing things or attaking the league for niggly fouling are all his way of defending his players.

    Yeah it sounds half crocked when he says it but doesn’t it sound half crocked when Mark Hughes defends Adebayor’s actions because of his emotion or Bellamy for slapping a fan because the fan ran on the field. Or even when SAF defends his players. It’s a manager’s job. It is also why most of Arsene’s players respect him. Because he is looking out for them.

    Secondly, I think you give City and ManU too much credit as top 4 sides. We all agree ManU got the benefit of being at OT yesterday. City is weak not only in the back four in the air, but when pressed their midfield (a strong pairing of De Jong and Barry) lose their shape which is going to open them up.

    Don’t get me wrong, I agree we still have our deficiencies – a true holding midfielder would be nice, a number goalie and maybe one more striker with some strength. Not necessarily in that order.

    Other than Chelsea none of the other contenders look like sure things. ManU is uncreative and will likely grit out a lot more wins than they are used to doing. City lack experience, cohesiveness and a solid back four, Liverpool – don’t ask me what it is about them but they just look very bland nothing exciting about them. We know our issues. Everton is starting to right the ship, Tottenham have been found out (though Webb was atrocious calling the match yesterday). So take your pick spots 2-4 are wide open and frankly, even with our issues I like our chances.

    • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 11:07 Log in to Reply

      Protect his players from NIGGLY fouls??!

      He wasnt complaining about a bad tackle in this case, he was complaining about those type of “bump” tackles that stops a 3 attackers vs 3 defenders scenario!

      What is protecting your players about that??? It has been a part of the game for decades now.

      Arsenal used to dish those out very frequently just 4-5 years ago UNDER WENGER.

      You defend your players when do are victims of bad tackles or if they do something wrong.

      You dont moan about “niggly tackles” … am sorry. That just makes everybody look at the club and laugh.

  2. Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:33 Log in to Reply

    Now Wenger is officially complaining to the FA about “persistent, niggly fouling” in the middle of the pitch that breaks down attacks!!!!

    Has the guy gotten so ridiculous he cant even hear himself spew the ironies.

    Back when he was actually winning stuff, we USED to be the one doing the tackling and fighting. We even had record numbers of yellow and red cards.

    Now he is complaining that inferior teams commit niggly tackles and take the yellow card instead of allowing us to pummel them.

    I mean, how can you hope to win something when your manager is complaining about this kind of nonsense??

    • arsesession 21 September, 2009 at 09:35 Log in to Reply

      I have to laugh cause you’re so right.

  3. DaAdminGooner 20 September, 2009 at 20:34 Log in to Reply

    For the City lovers out there – I contend they are already starting to fall apart.

    We know the referee judgments at OT all favourable to the Mancurians – Hughes knew that and admits it. But after the game Criminal extraordinare Craig Bellamy decked a fan who had run on to the pitch after the final whistle had blown.

    So Adebayor stomps on a players head and Bellamy decks a fan. Next week a City player will bite on Gianfranco Zolla’s ear.

    This team is set to implode. Hughes does not have the managerial skills to contain the personalities. I watch with a certain amount of Schadenfreude.

    • arsesession 20 September, 2009 at 22:16 Log in to Reply

      @ DAG

      I don’t believe City has any more villainous players that the Mancurians. Just wait until the close matches go against the Mancs & SAF!

      Eduardo will look like a saint compared to the thugs in the league!

  4. Andez 20 September, 2009 at 14:56 Log in to Reply

    Its easy to see that the real difference between Man U and us is really “mentality”. Nothing else.

    They have a gritty, die-hard mentality and we have a pussy French mentality.
    ——————————————————–

    Yes, a pussy French mentality that had just come from two goals down to beat a Belgium champions AWAY.

    But again, that doesn’t count does it? As we are ONLY Arsenal. Not your dear Manchester Utd.

    • vibe4arsenal 20 September, 2009 at 17:48 Log in to Reply

      Yeah, but aren’t Belgians just even pussier French? ;-)

      • arthur3sheds 20 September, 2009 at 18:09 Log in to Reply

        LOL! Careful though isn’t the Vermonster Belgian, no hint of “pussier” there.

        • vibe4arsenal 20 September, 2009 at 18:28

          Well, he did step aside for one of S-L goals. Looked a bit nervy there. ;-)

        • Andez 20 September, 2009 at 19:58

          yup yup the French no pussy! Hell, a few of our all time greats are all French – Paddy, Titi, and the guy on the upper left corner here. :)

          They were the World Champions for pete’s sake. The hard boys England last won the WC before anybody is born over here! :)

        • vibe4arsenal 20 September, 2009 at 20:31

          Oh, okay. But they’re still useless in a war. ;-)

        • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:23

          And who mentioned anything about England Andez???

          And who mentioned anything about world cups?

    • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:21 Log in to Reply

      Andez:

      Hahahahahahahhahah!

      Are you REALLY going to count coming back against STANDARD LIEGE as us having strong mentality?

      If so, then you are more delusional than Wenger.

  5. Andez 20 September, 2009 at 14:53 Log in to Reply

    Fred Reply:
    September 20th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Well, very few teams can take advantage of “gifts” that come their way, so you still have to give them credit.
    —————————————————-

    Yes, that’s because very FEW team had that ADVANTAGE of GIFTS the way United had at the first place.

    Afterall, how you could take advantage of a “GIFT that you don’t have”?

  6. Andez 20 September, 2009 at 14:27 Log in to Reply

    vibe4arsenal Reply:
    September 20th, 2009 at 10:49 am

    I just watched that. Is there any team that has had more 96th minute wins?

    Yes, I remember in one of Man U’s early title win of 90s, in a crucial match towards the end of the season, they were playing away at Sheff Wed or something. They NEEDED a goal, and somehow the referee decided to award them 7 minutes INURY TIME which nobody knews where they coming from. And they duly scored.

    The theory that Man Utd always had the “advantage” over other sides is not merely a myth. I bet a whole lot of clubs could testify how the referee had bailed them out of jail.

    And the fact that BEFORE we went to Old Tradfford in our recent defeat, we already read some fans were suggesting Rooney was going to win a penalty, and sure enough, he did, pretty sum the whole things up.

    When Rooney won the penalty. I was angry. But I wasn’t “surpised”. Not at all. And I doubt too many Gooners were “suprised” by the fact we once again conceded a penalty at OT.

    I would have been more suprisied if we didn’t concede a penalty!

    • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:16 Log in to Reply

      Or…maybe, just maybe Almunia shouldnt have been so stupid?

  7. Fred 20 September, 2009 at 12:33 Log in to Reply

    Love the smackdown on Ade from Henry. Nice!

  8. Fred 20 September, 2009 at 12:15 Log in to Reply

    Its easy to see that the real difference between Man U and us is really “mentality”. Nothing else.

    They have a gritty, die-hard mentality and we have a pussy French mentality.

    Man U win yet another epic, nothing shocking there.

    But when you see Wenger getting excited about a home win against Wigan, you know he still does not get it.

    We better concentrate on this carling cup. That is the only thing we have a chance of winning this year.

    PS: Man City are a top 4 worthy team. Liverpool or Arsenal, one of us got to go.

    • Fred 20 September, 2009 at 12:37 Log in to Reply

      Man City still have some obvious defensive problems. ie. Aerial weakness in central defense. Both Lescott and Toure are woeful in the air.

      Which makes it all the more incredible that Wenger wasted Bendtner out wide against them.

      I thought Wenger’s forte was doing due diligence on other teams??

      • nipuna 20 September, 2009 at 12:41 Log in to Reply

        Stop moaning. :)

        • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:14

          Not moaning. Just bitter that we wont win anything till Wenger leaves.

    • arsesession 20 September, 2009 at 13:50 Log in to Reply

      @ Fred,
      You give ManU too much credit. They are not the same team as the last three years.

      • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:15 Log in to Reply

        Ofcourse, they are far worse….yet they still have the mental strength to power through.

  9. nipuna 20 September, 2009 at 10:49 Log in to Reply

    Scoring a winner six minutes into the stipulated 4-minutes of injury time.

    There are some things even Man City cannot buy.

    • nipuna 20 September, 2009 at 11:10 Log in to Reply

      And Fergie rubs it in –

      “We have a neighbour, and sometimes neighbours are noisy, but we showed our power today and we get on with life.”

      • Fred 20 September, 2009 at 12:09 Log in to Reply

        I love this line.

        The kind of line a winner can get away with.

        • arsesession 20 September, 2009 at 13:47

          Ferguson is a poor loser and classless winner.

          To crow after last weeks victory, and then having the tie taken away in home team generous extra time, Hughes will be drinking pepto bismal all week.

        • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:13

          Nope. Ferguson is WINNER…..there are no adjectives needed to preface the W word.

          It goes without saying that being a winner makes you a poor loser.

          I remember when Wenger used to be hated as a “classless” winner ….now he is known as a pussy loser who always moans about stuff.

          I know which I would prefer.

    • DaAdminGooner 20 September, 2009 at 12:07 Log in to Reply

      £100 million for 4 strikers

      £40 million on defence

      Having a ref add 6 minutes stoppage time at Old Trafford – priceless

      • Fred 20 September, 2009 at 12:10 Log in to Reply

        Well, very few teams can take advantage of “gifts” that come their way, so you still have to give them credit.

  10. nipuna 20 September, 2009 at 08:34 Log in to Reply

    Who was saying let’s not get carried away?

    “We have shown the right attitude and quality today and I am very optimistic there is something special in this team.”

    No prizes for guessing who said that. :)

    • vibe4arsenal 20 September, 2009 at 10:36 Log in to Reply

      Putting aside my dreams of winning a prize, I’m a Gooner after all, was it the same guy who said of the losses in Manchester….

      “The defeats have strengthened our belief.”

      Oh, damn. Did ‘belief’ give it away? ;-)

      • live_dont_exist 20 September, 2009 at 10:45 Log in to Reply

        Have you guys ever not moaned? About something? Ever?

        Talking of moaning though – the old adage of “The amount of extra time added on = The amount ManU needs to win the game” held true yet again. Not shocked though..at all.

        • vibe4arsenal 20 September, 2009 at 10:49

          I just watched that. Is there any team that has had more 96th minute wins?

        • Fred 21 September, 2009 at 08:10

          To be fair, Man City spent ONE minute celebrating their goal.

          30+ seconds was also spent on substitutions.

          All this after the 4 minute board had gone up.

          The 4 minutes is meant as the minimum time. So technically the ref was right.

          I wont argue that it wasnt done as a favor to Man U…it sure was.

          However Man City also had time to score themselves.

  11. arsesession 20 September, 2009 at 08:01 Log in to Reply

    I was unable to see the match. Ecstatic to learn about the clean sheet and 3 points.

    When I saw the starting line up, I was apprehensive. For me, having Diaby and Eboue in the same line up is pushing your luck. Both are inconsistent.

    When you say Wigan, there is no luster of tradition. Last season I thought they had a decent team – although I don’t think much of Bruce. From a little of what I’ve seen this year, I like their new coach, but he really has a mountain to climb.

    Hoping some of you will serve up some critiques of the match.

  12. DaAdminGooner 19 September, 2009 at 16:06 Log in to Reply

    Best line on Twitter post match –

    Fans wanted a defender and a striker so Arsene went out an bought Vermaelen

    • arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 17:49 Log in to Reply

      LOL, that’s a classic! the Vermonster is worth two men :-D

      • DaAdminGooner 19 September, 2009 at 18:36 Log in to Reply

        That was actually a close second to the one I told you before –

        That with all his dedication and work ethic if he could just score more – he’d be as good as Drogba – they were talking about Eboue.

  13. stag133 19 September, 2009 at 13:48 Log in to Reply

    OK, that’s more like it.
    We dominated a team we should have dominated.
    That’s good. That’s what is supposed to happen. You can’t complain that it wasn’t a good opponent!
    All you can do is beat the teams you are playing, and today was a good start to build on.
    Let’s just keeping getting the 3 points we should.

  14. Andez 19 September, 2009 at 13:08 Log in to Reply

    On paper this game was supposed to be “easy”. In reality though, these are the soft of game we MUST win, if we want to seriously challenging for the title.

    Beating a top side is nice, but it’s all the same – 3 points.

    I remember some pretenders (newcastle, Spurs the likes )at the past were always being cited as “on their days, they can beat any side”.

    They could. But that’s exactly where their problems were. Because a title winning side is not about to beat the top sides “on their days”. It’s about killing off the supposingly weaker sides EVERY WEEK.

    Man Utd did not beat us in the league on both home and away last season, but they were the champions. The key difference is – they had taken far more points away from the weaker sides than we did.

    Our record against the top sides last season (in the league) wasn’t bad. We lost the title race by simply dropping too many points in the matches we were supposed to win.

    So let’s hope we are going to show some killer touch and finish off as many “weaker” sides as we could.

    • vibe4arsenal 19 September, 2009 at 13:43 Log in to Reply

      Andez, I agree with all of that, obviously. But this is one wasn’t just easy on paper, it was easy on the pitch. Not a ‘hard fought’ win. Yes, every win is important, 3 points is 3 points and (every other feel-good truism).

      But we’ve seen Arsenal have great stretches of strength over the last three/four seasons. Points where we looked indomitable and as if we might actually contend for something, against the teams who really matter. Despite those moments o brilliance, overall, we have come up short. Repeatedly.

      Being better than Wigan/Everton/et al is a minimum we should expect from 21st century Arsenal. I think Cesc’s subdued jog after his goal mirrored my feelings about the whole match. Business done. But nobody should be too impressed.

  15. arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 12:04 Log in to Reply

    Cesc has a ready replacement in Rosicky. I hope he will be up for it as I agree Cesc will propbably be out for a couple of games.

  16. gunnerdc 19 September, 2009 at 12:02 Log in to Reply

    Fabulous 2nd half. Vermaelen with a gracious sweep of the left foot. Eboue( courtesy of Eduardo) & Cesc with concise emphasizing goals. A few tough knocks, though. Cesc could only finish the game, which means what, three weeks out?

    Really, though, this was a tough fought game with 4 goals! 4! It could’ve been another 6 or 7 at that. I’m very impressed with this squad, regardless of what the pundits claim.

    The clean sheet was almost as important as the goals. A sense of defensive belief is exactly what’s needed. Oh yeah, and a top class GK in January!

    Excited for the Carling Cup squad on Tuesday. Should be young and fresh and show us the return of Senderos! Let’s see if he wants to continue trying to break into a World Class team or whether he’s destined for the likes of FC Zurich.

    • vibe4arsenal 19 September, 2009 at 12:13 Log in to Reply

      A ‘tough fought game with 4 goals. It could have been another 6 or 7 at that.’

      So you reckon a match where we could have scored 10 goals was ‘tough fought’?

      We dominated a terrible Wigan side, as we should have. Just as we dominated an awful Everton side. And a lousy Pompei. If you’re very impressed, that speaks to lowered expectations for AFC.

      I’ll be impressed when we beat some good sides.

      • arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 17:40 Log in to Reply

        We beat all the good sides last year bar ‘pool, yet ended up with nothing. Beating the best teams is good but beating the Wigans of this world is just as important. Let’s celebrate our victories.

        Like yourself I was not overly impressed with todays result as we should expect to be beating the likes of Wigan comfortably anyway. But we did the job well, lets give the lads credit even though we may not have been impressed.

        You must admitt our boys handled the physicality in the MF very well. They tried to outmuscle and hassle us but we came out on top anyway, maybe that’s why gunnerdc refers to a ‘tough fought game.’

        As I said let’s just celebrate the victory :-)

  17. macmac123 19 September, 2009 at 12:01 Log in to Reply

    4-0. That last goal was hilarious – hobbling Fabregas still has all the time in the world to run across the box – literally point to where he wants the cross – and tap it home.

    Nice comprehensive win. Wigan did make us work for a couple of spells. Not a major character test. (So far, we’ve failed those this season.) But a decent confident booster to allow us to regroup.

    My ambitions for the season have been calibrated accordingly –
    4th place or die!

  18. Andez 19 September, 2009 at 11:56 Log in to Reply

    MOM – Eboue.

  19. macmac123 19 September, 2009 at 10:53 Log in to Reply

    Come on, Gunners, let’s put this to bed.

  20. gunnerdc 19 September, 2009 at 10:48 Log in to Reply

    Van Persie should have 2 or 3 by now.

  21. gunnerdc 19 September, 2009 at 10:34 Log in to Reply

    Eboue should’ve finished that! Exorcise the demons, mate!

  22. macmac123 19 September, 2009 at 10:28 Log in to Reply

    Thumping header from Vermaelen – 1-0. Nice positive start.

  23. DaAdminGooner 19 September, 2009 at 09:39 Log in to Reply

    Arsenal Bench: Silvestre, Rosicky, Bendtner, Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere, Szcznesy

  24. DaAdminGooner 19 September, 2009 at 09:37 Log in to Reply

    Arsenal Starting XI: Mannone, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy Sagna, SOng Fabregas, Diaby, Eboue, van Persie, Eduardo

    Wigan Starting XI: Kirkland, BRamble, Boyce, Figueroa, Melchiot, Diame, Thomas, Koumas, N’Zogbia, Rodallega, Gomez

  25. DaAdminGooner 19 September, 2009 at 09:28 Log in to Reply

    Game Day Chat is now open:

    https://youaremyarsenal.mystagingwebsite.com/gamedaychat

  26. arsesession 19 September, 2009 at 08:42 Log in to Reply

    Positive momentum v. Negative momentum

    IMO, psychology has a huge influence in sports and our lives. Fan and media reaction (perception) are impossible to isolate from players and managers.

    The Liege match was a culmination of the past weeks maelstroms as DAG points out.

    Every media and fan reaction was centered on the negative aspects of our players & play. The spotlight on controversies and losses changed our beliefs. I can see how we started the Liege match with our confidence in disarray. Remember the start, Vermaelen made two early passes (he was uncontested) and both were gifts to the home team.

    The Wigan match is an opportunity to build on the late win at Liege.
    Does our positive attitude return, reflected in a flowing attack and defensive play that shuts down every Wigan attack?

    Arsenal youngsters need to learn how to win missing key teammates.

  27. arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 06:15 Log in to Reply

    I think the Times crticism of Song “Alex has tendency to succumb to positional wondering that pulls him out of the center of the leaving the defense exposed,” is valid.

    It seems Arsene has never been keen on the straight DM, Makalele type role. In the 4-4-2 he prefered to employed to CM that shared DF duties but were generally end to end, however whether by design or by chance one tended to be a little more defensive minded i.e Petit in the partnership with Vieira, Flamini in the partnership with Cesc. But in essence all of these are box to box CMs who are far more mobile and appear to have more endurance than Song.

    In the 4-3-3 it appears Song opperates more like a Makalele type but as Wenger loves “fluidity” in his side, the interchanging of positions throughout a game. Song is encouraged as is Denilson, Gallas and Vermaelen to join the attack, in other words he is EXPECTED to come out of that position. Whether it be to cover a marauding Gallas/Vermaelen in DF or join in the attack, which has seen with a few shots on goal this season, he is expected to participate in this fluidity. I presume when he joins the attack the DF is expected to push up form a higher line and eliminate that space in front of them to some extent therefore effectively covering for his absence.

    I think it is more a question of tactics rather than positional wandering, Alex generaly stays in the centre except when he has to cover someone ala Clichy. Whether we prefer the Makalele role or Arsene’ version of Total Football is another topic.

    Let me go and check out this chat room. I though I think I may rather talk to myself here as I am sooo old fashioned ;-)

    • arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 08:45 Log in to Reply

      I meant to say invalid in the 1st paragraph

  28. arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 05:52 Log in to Reply

    Great article DAG, you are on a roll keep up the good work.

    I like the Times, but I don’t take their reference to our classic back 4/5 seriously. Does anyone really believe we can reproduce that again. In a defensive sense that was probably the best performing back 4 in the EPL ever! It it not just the training that made them successful but the defensive approach of our whole team tactics and the fact they had a chemistry (I know part of that would have been developed through training) and a couple of outstanding CBs. I don’t think if we had two “pure” defenders ala Vidic and Terry that we would be able to produce that level of DF performance while also play entertaining and winning football.

    Maybe I am being a romanticist but I think that the success of that DF unit including both the Bould and Keown eras is truly unique and will never again be repeated in EPL football.
    George Graham, whom I presume is better tactically in the DF department than Arsene Wenger was unable to produce the DF stability of that unit with his clubs post Arsenal, but then again he wasn’t afforded the time that he had at Arsenal.

    • stag133 19 September, 2009 at 13:44 Log in to Reply

      Arthur, what I liked about “that” back 4, with either Winterburn or Dixon as well, is that it was DEFENSE FIRST… and DEFENSE SECOND… they didn’t screw around at the back. Its nice to have defenders that can go forward, but its not their job.

  29. arthur3sheds 19 September, 2009 at 05:31 Log in to Reply

    By the way glad to have you back Chris :-)

    I have the same opinion of that game as you, we were woeful like one our poorest of performances last season, but we scraped through. I think we will be up for this game. I suspect Arsene will have noted the lack of pressing in the last couple of games and drill into the troops the the need for the bar to be raised once again. Well I hope so!

  30. stag133 19 September, 2009 at 00:25 Log in to Reply

    I was absolutely SHOCKED during the StandLig match.
    I think we played poorly, and we gave the ball away throughout the entire match. It was awful. We didn’t deserve to win, quite frankly, but I will happily take the 3 points.
    Mannone was not convincing at all.
    Gallas played like rubbish.
    Cesc was anonymous for most of the match.
    I can’t really think of anyone who played very well.
    Yet, we still won, because the competition wasn’t very good.
    They didn’t do much against us all match,
    we gifted both goals (nice back heel into our area Eduardo!)

    So, that being said, I sincerely hope we come to play at home against Wigan and restore some belief into the squad and its fan base!

    I’d like to see Rosicky start again, he could be a factor if he can get fit… and I would like to see us start with some passion and aggression for a change.

    C

  31. DaAdminGooner 18 September, 2009 at 23:51 Log in to Reply

    And yes – Game Day Chat room is open.

    https://youaremyarsenal.mystagingwebsite.com/gamedaychat

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