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Arsenal Supporters Groups’ Poor Perception Harms Their Ability to Unify Fans

By Michael Price
May 27, 2016
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Arsenal Fans Deserve Better, Supporters, Gooners

For those of you that don’t know, in real life outside of coaching youth football and supporting the Arsenal, I work as a pharmaceutical marketer. In fact much of my job is advising many of the large pharma companies on how to reach their intended targets. Inevitably every year when we go through operational planning, the talk turns to the use of social media.

Every year the conversation ends when we say – if you can’t handle the negativity of social media don’t do it. The rationale is that social media has become more for the trolls than the advocates, and the advocates much like in the normal world are drowned out by the vocal minority.

What’s this all got to do with Arsenal Supporters Groups, you ask?

When I write – Arsenal Supporter’s Trust (AST) – what’s the first thing that comes to mind? When I write Black Scarf Movement (BSM) – what comes to mind? In most cases, if I say AST on twitter the first thing that comes up is the personal views of one Tim Payton. Conversely, if I mention BSM, I am likely to get some sort of mention of Highbury Harold.

Before I go on, I should say that I have individual twitter connections with each of these gentlemen. Whether you want to believe it, they are just as passionate as you about the Arsenal and have right to have an opinion.

However, the line has been blurred between their respective roles for the organizations they represent and their own personal opinions. In the end, it has become impossible for them to achieve what they hope to achieve in their roles with the AST and BSM because they have indulged their personal feelings and whatever agenda they may have as priorities, making it difficult for anyone to see where personal ends and organization begins.

And it hinders the ability of those organizations to gain any kind of consensus among the fans, especially when it would likely be so easy to unite all Arsenal supporters under a common effort in opposition of Stan Kroneke’s ownership.

The AST outlines its current priorities as:

  • To seek further explanation from Stan Kroenke as to his vision for Arsenal and to encourage him to engage personally with Arsenal fans and other shareholders
  • To maintain a dialogue with both major shareholders in Arsenal and urge them to work together to make Arsenal a stronger club
  • To independently review the corporate governance of Arsenal and urge appropriate modernisation and policies that support the future of the club
  • To provide independent analysis and review of Arsenal’s finances to enable Arsenal supporters to better understand how the money they put into the club is used
  • To promote more affordable ticket prices at Arsenal and at all football games and fairer distribution of tickets to Arsenal fans, including maximum use of tickets at home games through development of an improved Ticket Exchange
  • To support policy change by both Government and the Football Authorities that would see football fans given a greater say in the ownership of football clubs including through the proposed changes to the Premier League rulebook on structured dialogue between Clubs and Supporters
  • To work closely with other supporter groups at Arsenal for the benefit of all supporters.

It all sounds very good, but when Tim goes on to social media or any form of media and talks about spending money or the manager’s competence, it’s hard for many supporters to discern his personal opinion and positions from that of the organization he is meant to represent.

For the Black Scarf Movement, their aims as defined by their web site are little more simplistic than those as defined by the AST. According to their web site

“We’ve said all along that everything we do shares a common goal: to benefit Arsenal fans.”

The BSM, like AST, has been vocal on ticket prices and other items concerning the fan base. However, perception of the organization is being largely based on the opinions of one – maybe a few more people.

Just like the AST, that perception is based on personal rather than organizational positions and is further convoluted by the use of a personal platform to be rude or intemperate to fellow fans. Now, look if someone is initially rude to them, I’ve no beef with taking a like-minded tack, but when someone who doesn’t agree with your opinion says so in a manner that isn’t rude, being rude back only harms perceptions. In this case it harms the perception of the organization these people are associated with.

The sad part for the organizations they are associated with is I’m afraid to say, is they are being prevented any chance of them being successful in what they’re trying to achieve. It is like the political arena we see every day – bad politics from bad politicians.

And this is what the acrimony has become to an extent — a political exercise. Like politics, the choice of side you are on is now based on whom you most agree with. Fact is, I would wager that most supporters are not as vocal on either of the major issues that seemed to be argued over daily in the social media universe.

Most fans see pros and cons to all arguments. They probably rationally see the good and bad of the organization and know conditions aren’t so black and white. In fact there’s probably 95% of all the issues facing Arsenal that we can all agree on. The 5% we don’t is okay. We don’t have to agree on everything.

Wouldn’t it be great to have a supporter organization that could bring everyone together based on that principle alone? That all ideas are welcome. All positions are welcome.

Sadly, the perceptions of the organizations have led to them to be ridiculed and part of that is due to the vocal people that represent them. The organizations will never achieve their ultimate aims because they are now viewed as too divisive, too caustic and caricatures of what they were supposed to be.

The bad thing about that is they needn’t be. They’ve done some good. They still can.

Red Action.

I would be remiss if I didn’t touch on an organization that has disappointed me recently with its decision to join the protests that we saw towards the end of the season. Not because they protested. But because they used their official platform to promote the protest.

Red Action has had the remit of working with the club to create a positive game day experience for all match going fans. They’ve been hugely successful.

However, they lost sight of their remit when they joined in with those organizations to protest the club. Again, there is nothing wrong with an individual’s desire to protest. They should by all means be allowed to do so. But when you use an organization whose purpose is the betterment of the match day for ALL fans, you take a position that is exclusionary to a portion of the fan base that is not willing to protest, believes in the protest but not in the manner, etc.

Moving forward, are the club going to want to work with an organization that decided to support a protest against it? More importantly when Red Action go on to try and create an environment in the Emirates again, are they going to get support from the broader fan base because they’ve now diverted into a protest organization?

I want nothing more than for each of these organizations to be successful in their stated objectives. I’d love it even more if they could successfully unify the fan base against the ownership (or lack thereof) of Stan Kroenke, but when smart, professional individuals make stupid decisions without thinking how it hurts the aims of those organizations, you know it’s not going to happen and we will remain as fractious as ever.

Sigh.

 

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11 comments

  1. Stag13 3 June, 2016 at 01:36 Log in to Reply

    I thought it was a well written, well thought out article… Sure, there are many supporters who are not happy, or even pissed with the club’s direction and efforts to try to actually WIN trophies. But there are just as many “new” supporters who only know Wenger’s Arsenal… and they think that making the top 4 every year is just a wonderful accomplishment that should be wildly applauded. At the end of the day… for the most part… “it doesn’t matter what you think” (The Rock).
    The club make gobs of money off the supporters, and it doesn’t matter if we protest, or don’t renew season tickets or travel half way across the world to watch… because there are 10 more to take our place and our tickets. The die-hard fans… lifelong season ticket holders… those who knew the club existed before Wenger… don’t really matter to the club. Each week 60K new fans will show up, buy exorbitantly priced tickets, buy expensive concessions, and buy all kinds of swag from the club shop. The days of Highbury, and the passion that existed in it’s era… are long gone. It’s just entertainment now. And that’s the way ownership likes it. Less passion for when the club when, less anger when the club lose… just buy your tickets and move along.
    I did find it interesting that the Liverpool fans got their ownership to react/respond to their protest by walking out of a match. I’d say Liverpool have the closest thing to old school support and fandom… and probably old school environment at a match? (though that’s a guess, because I haven’t been to Anfield in 7 or 8 years)

    English Football WAS different. As an American who fell in love with the game and the Arsenal… that was a big part of it. The passion was amazing… the support was fantastic…
    It’s much more like US sports now… it’s a business, and the Proles don’t matter…

    • DaAdminGooner 3 June, 2016 at 15:46 Log in to Reply

      Stag is that you?

      • Chris Stagliola 10 June, 2016 at 00:17 Log in to Reply

        Yes. of course.

  2. US Gooner 28 May, 2016 at 18:05 Log in to Reply

    Excellent article. Like anything else where you have millions of fans (across the globe), you will have opinions all across the board. The key is to allow rational sharing of opinions, while we all enjoy the team we love. I have a different view of Kroenke. Quite familiar with his management style and skills in the US. I’ve been an Arsenal fan since the early 70s and attending since the late 70s, and frankly think the current management is the best we’ve ever had. Way better and more professional than the good-old-boy network of the Hill Wood decades. Gazidis excellent and commercial team getting better. Which we will need to stay among the top 10 teams in the world (which we are) and break into the top 3-4. But again, that’s just my opinion.

  3. anicoll5 28 May, 2016 at 13:14 Log in to Reply

    It may be “like the political arena we see every day”. It may do no harm to reflect that AFC is not a “political arena” no matter how much some our self promoting spokesmen wish it was.

    We don’t get a vote as far as I know, and the only weapon we have is to withdraw our cash by not renewing etc.

    AFC is an effectively privately owned leisure business, a global brand some might say, with a number of significant income streams.

    What the Scarfists want/don’t want is irrelevant, and likely to remain so.

  4. 26may1989 27 May, 2016 at 20:31 Log in to Reply

    Really good article.

    The Arsenal Supporters’ Trust is especially disappointing to me – the purpose of the Trust, as expressly stated in its trust instrument, is oriented on ownership issues and facilitating involvement for the fans. There is no mention of a position in the various debates amongst fans (Wenger continuing, spending money, winning trophies etc), and rightly so.

    The Trust was developed, with the support of the Club, for very specific purposes. Its annual analysis of the Club accounts was especially valuable for fans to understand what was happening during a financially sensitive and delicate period. But as the angst built amongst some Arsenal fans, so the mission began to creep, and more and more the Trust started to take public positions beyond issues of ownership of the Club and creating avenues for fans to express their views, instead jumping to express the views of the cabal at the centre of the Trust (and to be fair, it isn’t just Tim Payton) as to the qualities of the manager, the squad and the acquisition of new players. This has nothing to do with the original purpose of the AST.

    I used to be active in the AST, and had paid for life membership. But as time went on, and I saw more and more that the core group wanted to use the AST as a vehicle to express their own personal opinions about on-the-pitch issues, I became alienated from it. Eventually, I wrote to them, resigning my life membership – it didn’t mean I got any money back, of course, but I wasn’t willing to have someone else express views apparently on my behalf but for which I had no sympathy and for which the AST had not sought my consent.

    It’s a real shame, the AST has frittered away what was a really good role for the fans, and I am sure also no longer benefits from the support of Ivan Gazidis. Of course, Arsenal fans have diverse views about what should be done with on-the-pitch issues, and everyone has the right to say what he or she wants, but exploiting organisations as a means for elevating some voices isn’t on.

  5. Molekh 27 May, 2016 at 19:52 Log in to Reply

    Basically these organisations are run by people who have realised that they don’t matter to the club. Rather than just accept this simple fact they have instead attempted to organise against the very club they claim to support. The AST was blessed to receive financial support from Arsenal to facilitate fanshare. This however wasn’t what they wanted. They believed they could run the club better and now as a concentration point for small share groupings, they should naturally have seat on the board. They engaged in a campaign of criticism and ageism against their benefactors and then cravenly blamed the club who pulled the financial plug in response. Financial loss for the investors was the result. A great idea destroyed by the hubris and delusional ambition of what Oliver Holt correctly called “a bunch of spoiled little rich boys”.
    The black scarf movement claims to “want our Arsenal back” It was never theirs and whoever’s it was sold it. You can’t move back to Highbury, You can’t have safe standing, You can’t go back to the 90’s, if you could I would already be there. Football clubs evolve (Arsenal) or die(Aston Villa) The truth is for these focal points of protest groups, it was always only ever about them. They are simply dissatisfied customers that others are stupid enough to listen to. A recent demonstration of this was the “be an A4 banner wanker” protest which was rightly ridiculed when its feeble nature was exposed. These people are either overpaid cricket- watching malcontents or overly aggressive wannabe thugs who sang hopefully for the death of the Arsenal manager. Fuck them all. They don’t represent me or anybody else or than their own obtuse self-interest. They believe local fans have more right to an opinion about a global club. They fear their growing irrelevance crying “football without fans is nothing” but at the same time they set a shitty atmosphere in the ground” and defend their right to do that because they purchased a ticket that should be reduced in price so that they can impose their mealy mouthed, verruca salt whingeing atmosphere in a ticket price protectorate. They hate AW and SK because daddy didn’t bring it now. This is why they want a new daddy.
    No matter their BS mission statements, when all those who run an organisation are individually against the manager, collectively the cannot claim to be neutral.

    • Dr Headgear 27 May, 2016 at 20:42 Log in to Reply

      Don’t beat about the bush, mate. Just tell us straight what you really think. ;-) But for the record, pretty much spot on – except for the fact that safe standing IS acheivable, though it’s a long term project and requires political will by actual politicians, as well as clubs and fans. AST and BSM are impotent organisations, lead by those drunk on a dream of actual power. RedAction had a lot of positive influence, but should never have become politicised re club ownership/management.

  6. jon fox 27 May, 2016 at 18:51 Log in to Reply

    This article is deliberately too nuanced ,IMO to make the writer look more considered than he is. The heart of the matter is that many thousands of fans are deeply discontent with the whole structure of how the club is owned, administered and managed. This in no 5% disagreement and agreeing on the 95%. This is a wholesale dismay by countless thousands against what we correctly perceive as a couldn’t care less for trophies, only money, plan from the owner and a complicit manager who , though he desperately wants to win titles , just won’t endanger his cosy and well paid position, by gainsaying the owner. We, the fans, have been mistreated and taken for granted by a deeply uncaring and unpleasant man in Kroenke and his board of puppets. There is a fault line at our club to rival the San Andreas fault and it is as dangerous. I speak as a fan who has regularly attended since 1958 but who stopped coming this February, when I could no longer stomach the lies and deception by the club and wilful blindness by Wenger to the team’s faults. It is plain to me that Wenger will never win us the title or even take the necessary action in the transfer market and in coaching to keep up with modern managers and proven winners like Mourinho and Guardiola. Neither of them would have put up with Walcott for ten long years of mostly failure and injury.

    • DaAdminGooner 27 May, 2016 at 18:59 Log in to Reply

      I agree that many fans are discontent. I would disagree that there is 100% across the board agreement on what people perceive as being wrong. On many of the issues I would say that many agree. I would say on a few (some of them big) many disagree. However, because the supporter group’s allow their representatives personal views to be interpreted as their own – they will never be able to pull the remaining supporters together to actually do anything about it. Which was the whole point of the piece.

      • Dr Headgear 27 May, 2016 at 20:34 Log in to Reply

        I thought it was a well written and well considered article, though I disagree with the idea that fans agree that Kroenke is a/the problem. That looks like scapegoating to me, as Kroenke seems to by and large let the club run itself.
        BSM I’ve never had any time for, I just fundamentally disagree with them. AST are too far up their own arses imo (that might just be Payton, but it’s not always easy to see the difference, as you point out). RedAction I’m disappointed by. Their focus should be tickect prices, atmosphere, safe standing. They’ve been good on these, and have represented fans and entered a productive dialogue with the club on them. Entering the political arena was a poor, and divisive, move.

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