Luis Suarez should not be allowed to grace the Arsenal shirt
Ah, you just got to love the summer transfer window. Every day there is something new to get up in arms about. Today, it’s the continued rumour that Arsenal are set to increase their bid for Liverpool’s Luis Suarez.
The Suarez to Arsenal story is the new “story that won’t go away.” A fortnight ago it was Higuain and before that it was Jovetic. Both interspersed with Rooney and the return of Cesc Fabregas.
In reality I am not sure what to make of the Suarez link. When it first surfaced this seemed to be a case of creating a story to get some momentum. What do I mean? Well, from all perspectives it looked like the deal between Arsenal and Real Madrid to bring Higuain was done and dusted. Higuain’s father and various outlets in Argentina, Spain and England had all be officially confirmed the deal. Then Madrid seemingly moved the goal posts.
So the Suarez story then pops up. Suarez is one of Madrid’s primary targets it has been reported. The striker himself has made no secret of his desire to play there. So all this looked like was an attempt (albeit a feeble one) to pressure Madrid into finalizing the Higuain deal.
Well, if you haven’t noticed since the Suarez story first brook any news on Higuain to Arsenal has gone quiet. Only word that on July 15, Ancelotti wants to meet face to face with the Argentine. Now, today we are greeted with the story that Arsenal are set to raise their bid on Suarez.
It makes you wonder what is going on.
How did we go from a player who by all indications wanted to come here to one who supposedly wants nothing to with England because of its very opinionated media? No one knows and anyone who says is either lying or is Arsene Wenger.
Suarez seems on the surface to be such an anti-Arsene kind of selection. We are constantly told that part of the selection criteria is a mental attitude above just physical skill. We’ve all read the detailed psychological profiling that Wenger and his scouts subject players to. Based on the weight of evidence against him, Suarez looks to be one who would fail the test – repeatedly.
No doubt Suarez is a highly skilled player. His ability to find the back of the net is amazingly prolific. At Ajax his final tally was 74 goals in 97 league appearances. Last season at Liverpool he netted 30 goals in 44 appearances.
He is technically skilled and has pace to go along with deft movement off the ball. He is virtually a threat from anywhere; long-distance, fighting in the air or anywhere around or in the box. His speed and guile make him elusive and god forbid if you let him have space to attack from the outside in – he will hurt you.
On the surface his positives surely make him a target to covet. Why wouldn’t you take him based on this?
Well, because it is only part of the picture. When we discussed Suarez’s ability to pass a psychological exam Arsenal hold so dear, it wasn’t because we thought he was mentally challenged. But his behavior clearly shows that something isn’t quite right up in the head.
Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I am not calling him a special needs case. I am just calling him a mental case. A mental case that I’d personally prefer to keep miles away from this club.
We are Arsenal. That means something. Arsenal has personified class for as long as anyone can remember. It has always been part of the core of what make Arsenal, Arsenal.
Sure, there have been players who may not have always had the class down perfect. Adams and Vieira come to mind. But their infractions in my opinion pale in comparison to the long list of infractions Suraez has amounted in the last 7 or so years.
Just to recount them for you:
(list courtesy the Telegraph)
- Dismissed in his first game for Nacional in 2005 (2 yellows)
- Locker room brawl with Ajax teammate Albert Luque (banned by club)
- Hand of God for Uruguay – on the goal line his blatant handball denied a goal scoring chance in the final minute that would’ve sent Ghana through. Uruguay got on through winning on PKs.
- Biting an opponent while at Ajax – bit Otman Bakkal of PSV Eindhoven. Given the nickname – the Cannibal of Ajax
- Frequent Diver miles – since his time in the Premier League no one does more to “win” penalties then Luis Suarez.
- Racism – the FA panel found that on 10 separate occasions Suarez used a racially charged term to goad Patrice Evra. Feigning cultural ignorance and stating the term is used in a friendly manner in his native Uruguay, Suarez and his Liverpool teammates made a mockery of the sensitivities of the charge.
- The one-fingered salute – Gave the finger to Fulham supporters walking off the pitch after he failed to win a penalty after supposedly being taken down in the box by Brede Hangeland.
- Hand of God for Liverpool – blatant handball that dropped the ball at his feet to allow him to score against Mansfield allowed Liverpool to move on in the competition. Never accepted responsibility or took and blame.
- Biting an opponent whilst at Liverpool – the biting of Branislav Ivanovic needs no further explanation.
Now many will argue so what. We need to win. Let’s forget about all this. We forgave Vieira his spitting and Adams his drinking. True. The problem is that with Suarez these things don’t stop. They add up and continue to happen and each time it is not the player who truly pays the penalty, it is the club.
The next time, and there will be a next time, that he does something stupid in the Premier League, his ban will be substantial. His last ban was 10 games and the Evra ban was 8 games. He will find no lenience with the FA next time. Another ban would likely keep him out of the squad for a 1/3 or more of a season. Then you’ve spent upwards to £40 million on a player who is of no use to you when you likely need him the most.
We simply can’t afford to sacrifice the core principles in the name of bringing star players. We want, no we need our players to exude the standards the club has set.
Victory through harmony is a phrase that is touted by many and when I see it , I want to quote Inigo Montoya and say “I do not think it means what you think it means.”
To me we win and will win when we work together for the team. Arsenal pulled through the end of the season last year because the gelled as one cohesive unit playing for each other.
Suarez is not a player who plays for his team. If he did he wouldn’t keep repeating stupid act after stupid act. Additionally, by continually placing blame on everyone but himself he portrays himself as the big victim when all the proof says otherwise.
We want players of quality and who can do what Suarez can do. Sure but not at any cost. Not at violating some of what makes this club exceptional. We are all repulsed when the paedo chants are sung about Arsene Wenger. We got upset at the rapist chants against Van Persie when he was here. We vocally lauded the decision to ban Suarez when he was suspended for his reported racist comments. We do that because we have a sense of class and tradition and expectations.
8 years is a long time without silverware. Not the longest for this club but still a long time. I get the overwhelming desire to sign Suarez by some portion of the supporters. But I know many like me are repulsed at the idea of having him wear our colors and represent this club.
I am asked if we sign him will a sing his praises if he scores. No. I will celebrate the goals that Arsenal the team got. But I cannot support someone I find repulsive and a stain on the game.
Side note: regular readers know I am in the US. I live outside of Philadelphia and follow the Philadelphia Eagles. I’ve always been a diehard Oakland Raiders fan but I used to work for the Eagles and as such follow them. However, since the day they signed Mike Vick to be their QB, I have not watched a single game. As a dog owner I could not fathom any club taking in so vile a human being that would do what he did in the name of making money to dogs.
No I won’t stop watching Arsenal. My love for the club goes deeper than one person. But the feelings that I have for Michael Vick here in the US (as do many many Eagles fans) is similar to what I feel for Luis Suarez. If he plays for us, he will get the benefit of playing for my club but I will not sing his name.
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Oh, just realized you weren’t the one suggesting our bidding would benefit Real getting him, my bad. Obviously everything should be taken with a pinch of salt, I was more theorizing on the reasoning IF it were true
Luis Suarez, pretty much accepted as being one of the top handful of strikers in the world according to most measures. I wouldn’t argue.
At 26 he is in his über prime time. Not to mention EPL ready.
Suarez v Real’s Gonzalo Higuaín, hmm, to be honest it isn’t really a contest. Higuaín is not in the top handful of world class strikers at this point, he’s in a rung or two further down the ladder. He’s good, capable, effective, consistent – but has always played a little bit second fiddle to the other star forwards Real have brought in. Let’s be honest, before his name was linked with us, there weren’t any calls for his signing. For the merits I have already said Higuaín may be a good signing, but he doesn’t quite get the pulse moving as fast as the top drawer candidates.
As to the reputation of Suarez, I agree with those seeking to bring some balance. The big issue for me was not the Evra incident, it was the biting x 2. Evra is a first-class *#@% – hated by many. He fulfils the stereotype of your classical big-mouth big-headed painful Frenchman. He’s got a horrible persona. One problem with the Suarez/Evra incident is getting to the bottom of it. Cry ‘racist’ and mud sticks – whether it accurate or not.
For me it’s the biting that seems the worrisome characteristic. It’s in a league of its own. Addictions to alcohol and drugs are incredibly sad and damaging to the person and those close to him/her – but biting is savage and sub-human. To do it with seeming intent on a sports fields in front of camera’s and millions of onlookers just seems – utter nuts. It’s head-case stuff. Keown didn’t bite anyone, neither did Adams or Vieira. Suarez seems to have the Roy Keane edge to him, Roy always looked a tad too close to the demonic for my comfort. I love hard players like Vieira as much as most, but Keane, hmm, not so much.
So, what to do? I’m a little bit gobsmacked that we’re navigating in the Suarez orbit to be honest. As a player – divorced from the biting – I’d take him in a heart beat, even at 35m. Are we really after him? I’m still not sure. If he comes, I’ll be fascinated.
As for the morals. Frankly, I’ve found myself less and less interested in trying to find a moral compass in football. I mean, what’s so jolly moral about Arsenal? We stood by Adams and his drinking, ditto Merson and his drugs, we had a manager taking bungs, we created a gross salary structure that has seen a bevy of overpaid underperforming players we can’t move on, we overpay our manager for non-performance, we charge the highest ticket prices in the world for a team that demonstrably fails to challenge for anything, we tell (corporate) lie to fans constantly to convince them were serious challengers… why try and see morals in all that?
It’s just sport. And the sort that pays rather obscene sums to most of those involved.
Comparing Michael Vick to Luis Suarez is a bit much, isn’t it? Michael Vick killed and tortured dogs in a horrific way. He also broke a variety of other laws and committed several felonies in the process.
Luis Suarez’s indiscretions all arise from his competitive nature. He wants to win. Badly. And sometimes he goes overboard. I’m not condoning the racism or the biting but I’d say a few jibes and a couple bites still pale in comparison to what Vick did.
Out of the things you mentioned, the propensity for diving, the two bites and the Evra incident are the only ones worth mentioning. And with the Evra incident, we don’t even know the entire story. Again, I’m not in any way condoning racism but who knows exactly what was said? As an Arsenal supporter surely you’ll remember Evra publicly slating Arsenal players and the club itself on several occasions. His references to Arsenal players as “11 babies” and the club as “a football training center that no one will remember 10 years from now” immediately spring to mind. If he’s saying those sorts of things publicly, what sort of things do you think he’s saying on the pitch? We do know that Evra admitted to making a comment about Suarez’s “sister’s pussy” to begin the conversation. Excuse me if I’m not as quick as you to feel sorry for poor Patrice Evra, the same Patrice Evra who was seen publicly taunting Liverpool supporters prior to the match, the same Patrice Evra who was seen publicly chewing into a plastic arm when United won the league, the same player who was seen publicly celebrating in Suarez’s face after a United win, something that Suarez did not react to. But his teammates did. And I think it’s worth noting the manner in which Suarez’s teammates reacted to Evra doing that. Were their reactions in any way indicative of their believing Suarez was guilty of anything in regard to Evra, or that Suarez was a player who wasn’t a team player?
Remember that Suarez’s account is that he used the word “negro” once in the form of “why, because you are black?” and that he said it in response to Evra saying “don’t touch me South American.” Remember that only Evra was booked by the referee. Remember that Dirk Kuyt, who was right there on the scene, testified that he was “absolutely certain” that he heard Evra say that the referee was only booking him “because he was black.” Also remember that a previous FA panel had labeled previous testimony of Evra’s as “exaggerated and unreliable.”
Again, I’m not condoning racism in any way, but the fact of the matter is that Suarez was vehemently backed by his teammates and his manager as not being a racist, vehemently backed by the people of Uruguay for his explanation of the different translation in Uruguay for the word he used, and even the FA panel and Evra himself publicly stated they did not believe Suarez to be a racist. It’s also worth noting that Suarez’s grandfather is black.
Again, and this is the last time I’ll say it, but I’m not condoning racism. I simply don’t believe there’s enough evidence to paint Suarez as a racist. Did he use questionable language? Probably. End of story. He didn’t exactly electrocute innocent dogs, did he?
Now, as for the rest, the diving is problematic, as is the reputation he’s gained for it. But would you not take a Ronaldo or a Bale on your team because they have a propensity for doing it too? Of course you would. Suarez would make as much of a difference to the team as those players would.
The biting is what it is. Over the top? Of course. But frankly I like a little bite in my players so to speak. That in itself doesn’t turn me off him as a player. It would be a bit hypocritical of me to glorify Martin Keown on RvN and Lauren choking Phil Neville and then turn around and write off a player for doing something which is admittedly more savage but in the same vein.
And the other things you listed…
2 yellows in the same match!? Oh dear! What a villain!
Locker room brawl with teammate: It happens. He’s a fierce competitor.
Hand of God for Uruguay: Brilliant. Should he have let the goal go in and lose the match? He did exactly what he should have done. If it’s the last minute of the match and a player rounds the keeper and has an open shot on goal for the winner, should the last defender bring him down? Of course he should. There’s a remedy for those actions and the remedy is a red card and a penalty. It’s not cheating; it’s a sporting foul. Suarez gave his team a chance to win. Suarez sacrificed himself for the team, an act that was completely contrary to your statement that he doesn’t play for the team.
Giving the finger to Fulham supporters: Again, not ideal but nothing worth crying over. I’m sure they did worse to him.
Hand of God for Liverpool: That was cheating, but Thierry Henry kept Ireland out of the World Cup with a blatant handball. If you weren’t aware, we have a statue of him outside our stadium. I want to win, and sometimes the rules get bent in the process. Our 49 game unbeaten streak was ended by a blatant Rooney dive. It was cheating. Our unbeaten streak ended nonetheless.
Look, is Luis Suarez the most savory of characters? Of course he isn’t. But often times the best ones aren’t. You mentioned Adams and Vieira. Winners. Club legends. Suarez is the former and could be the latter.
And on the pitch he’s nothing short of a majestic player. His movement, his running, his effort, his quality. It’s no wonder his teammates love him. Not even worth debating what he brings to a team. Even a blind man could see it. He’d instantly make this team infinitely more dangerous.
To sum it all up, I’d welcome Luis Suarez to Arsenal in a heart beat.
Couldn’t have said it any better myself mate.
biting an opponent TWICE doesn’t turn you off in an opponent…?
and calling an opponent racist names is OK, because we don’t know what Evra said.
Got it.
So, we know for FACT he called Evra a racist name, and biting is OK, because he wants to win.
Yes. Sure. I understand.
I can think of much worse things than biting and name calling.
Have you seen him play?
I rest my case.
please, what possibly could be worse than BITING. Its not WWE, or even MMA.
It’s f*cking Soccer!!!! BITING? that’s OK?
Have you lost your mind?
Name calling? really?
Like hey you suck, or your Mama?
That’s “name calling”…
Teams are banned and have to play in front of empty stadiums for RACIST chants.
Sorry, its not 1975 any more. RACISM IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN SOCIETY.
Seen him play? Who gives a F*CK? Not me.
Justice would be someone head-butting him in the face on the pitch, that gave him a concussion and opened up a 20 stitch gash… or perhaps one of those Ryan Shawcross special leg breaking tackles…
surely, you think those things are OK? right?
I mean biting, head-butting, hard tackles that cause injury, racists in the game…. its all part of good entertainment… as long as the players are good.
have you seen him play?
what a jackass.
1. He called him black. He is black. It’s not as if he made hissing gas chamber sounds towards Jewish supporters (that would never happen at our wonderful classy club!). I said at least 3 times above that I’m not condoning racism. He called a black guy black! It’s slightly racist at most. No more racist than calling a South American guy a South American. And it was Patrice f*cking Evra he said it to. It’s not as if he’s going around calling every black player the n word. Again, his grandfather is black FFS. He said a word. One time. Get over it.
2. Tony Adams was brought up earlier. He put everyone’s lives in danger by drinking and driving. He could have taken children away from their parents, parents away from their children. Luis Suarez has never put anyone’s life in danger. Please do explain how biting someone is worse than drinking and driving. You’ll also remember that RvP was accused of rape. Did he do it? Who knows? But I’d say rape is worse than biting too, wouldn’t you? Again, not condoning biting. As I said above, it’s savage. But as I also said above, there are many worse things in the world that footballers have done.
Luis Suarez would be the best footballer at Arsenal since The Invincibles (with all due respect to the aforementioned RvP and Cesc Fabregas). People make mistakes. People are also capable of cleaning up their own acts (see Adams). Justice systems exist for a reason. Football has its own justice system. Luis Suarez has been dealt with by that justice system. If Suarez were to come in and play the champagne football he’s become famous for while curbing his emotions, the team would be a much better team than with him than without him.
Get off your high horse.
slightly racist?
That is the equivalent of slightly pregnant.
There is no such thing. You are either racist or not… pregnant or not.
It is that simple. Suarez used the term 10 TIMES during the match towards Evra. I don’t think he called him a “black guy”… but he could have called him monkey, and you wouldn’t care.
2nd. We are talking about ON THE PITCH BEHAVIOR.
There are a long list of miscreants in sport…
Suarez’ acts were all ON THE PITCH.
If you support people like that… want them on your team… more power to you.
He goes against everything I hate in people, let alone athletes. I don’t support racists, I don’t care how many goals he can score… and I don’t support idiots who BITE other humans, especially on a playing field. I don’t support Michael Vick. I don’t support athletes who commit domestic violence acts, commit violent crimes off the field, make facist salutes, support hate causes… sorry, I’m a bit strict in my beliefs that way!
Maybe we should get Shawcross too… see if we can bring in Di Canio into the fold as an assistant… how about John Terry for a few years…
There is no room on teams I support for people and players like this.
Obviously, you don’t care who the players are, and what they are about… as long as they score goals for your team.
For some reason I can’t reply below your post so I’ll just reply to mine above yours.
Firstly, if you’re taking the FA report as 100% truth which you clearly are, why are you neglecting the part where the panel determined that it did not believe Suarez to be a racist person? Why are you neglecting the part where Evra himself stated that he doesn’t believe Suarez to be a racist person?
Secondly, why are you not at all taking into account the support that Suarez received from his teammates in all this? If I’m not mistaken, Glen Johnson is a black guy, isn’t he? Do you think he would have worn this shirt if he thought he was a racist?
https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/SPORT/Pix/pictures/2011/12/22/1324557118943/Glen-Johnson-007.jpg
Do you think Glen Johnson would have tweeted this if he though he was a racist?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/22/article-2077722-0F42416A00000578-37_468x237.jpg
Keep in mind Glen Johnson actually knows Luis Suarez personally. You don’t.
You’re obviously entitled to all of the opinions you’ve shared but personally I just think you’re way over the top. You’re acting like the guy is Adolf Hitler.
Again, biting someone is a savage act but I don’t distinguish it from, say, a headbutt. It’s weirder, sure, but in the end it’s not really any different. Would you have been disgusted by Arsenal signing Zidane too? Were you at the Emirates Cup match where Materazzi was booed by Arsenal supporters every time he touched the ball? It was pretty clear where our support stood on that one. If you were there, would you have gotten up and walked out of the stadium in disgust that Arsenal supporters were backing the head butter over the “victim?”
And I saw another American football reference down below with Aaron Hernandez. I replied to it down there, but i just thought of something related now. Remind me of who won the Super Bowl this year. And who their undisputed leader was. Pretty sure it was this guy:
http://thoughtsofapatchman.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/ray-lewis-cuffed.jpg
I didn’t see an asterisk on the trophy saying “plead out of a murder charge in return for turning on his friends; lied about being there the night of the murders; suit he wore the night of the murders mysteriously disappeared and was unavailable to be entered into evidence.”
Another American sport since you like American sport analogies… do you turn the channel every time Charles Barkley comes on TV? After all, he did some pretty unsavory things ON THE COURT.
It’s fine that you’re “strict in your beliefs,”‘ but to me you sound like you’d be better off singing in a church choir than being a football supporter. People make mistakes in life. I’m sure glad you’re not a lawmaker. From the sounds of it Suarez would be spending the rest of his life in prison if it was up to you.
And lastly, no I wouldn’t want Shawcross. Not good enough for Arsenal. ; )
Great reply from Tim to stag 133, who appears to have a very wavy morale compass. (the organisation of this site is a joke, you hit reply and it is a lottery where your post ends up)
Heehee
Great Article but there remains the potential that he may have learned his lesson or the whole bid for suarez thing may be a ruse to force real madrid into that transfer battle over suarz, renig and then snap Higuain up. I do think that our biggest worries should be more about a capable defensive midfielder and an Experienced keeper. Arsenal Would have been a title contender last season but we simply conceded too many “key” goals. We need an experienced keeper to help smother any once in a while defensive errors and a defensive midfielder to help shore up our team for the occassions of counter attacks. We scored a high amount of goals last season and we conceded a relatively little amount. A winning formula some might call it but the problem was that we conceded goals at the worst possible times.
That being said I hate the transfer window. It is more torbulent and heart wrenching than a six flags rollercoaster
I mean after 8 trophy laden years you are in a position to be choosy!
Tophies or not are club has always carried itself differently than others. It’s called class we have it others don’t. And yes, we should always be choosy. Not every donkey dick should get to wear our shirt. We’ve had some idiots before no need to get the king of them in.
Class????? That is hilarious. Like Vieira dragged off the pitch spitting at an opponent, Keown at Old Trafford, Fabragas trying to fight the Blackburn manager, Adams drink drivng, Henry’s diving, Bergkamps’s elbows. The list is endless. Blinkered gooners as usual – the laughing stock of football.
If we’re the laughing stock of football what does that make you Scousers? Openly wearing those stupid t-shirts in support of Suarez. Not even the Chavs do something as low brow as that. The problem with you lot is that you all think it’s still the 80s and your club is relevant. You haven’t been relevant in years. Oooo you got lucky in the Champion’s League. Oooo you won the Carling Cup – but you shouldn’t have because the goal against Mansfield shouldn’t have counted because Donkey boy palmed the ball to his foot.
You’re club stopped being relevant the night Arshavin put four by you and ended your last real chance at a title.
8 years, no trophies and you call other clubs irrelevant. Righto. Totally deluded. Now go call your mummy for your milk. It’s bedtime.
Almost forgot …. http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/
‘Luis Suarez should not be allowed to grace the Arsenal shirt’? So you’re saying he would grace the Arsenal shirt, except he shouldn’t be allowed to? Well said, for an ignoramus!
Author grow up. This is football, we are interviewing him for public office.
He should wear the arsenal shirt and score a hattric against liverfoolls
If Wenger followed your logic, we should never have signed RVP. Tony adams our best captain was always in trouble off the field. Whilst I would like the Arsenal team full of saints, it is completely unrealistic with the modern player. 99% of players are only interested in the money. Why did so many top players join Chelsea, Manchester City, PSG and now Monaco, for their history? to win trophies? no for the money. Once you buy all the best players,you then win trophies. The fair play rules have not been introduced, and until this happens and then a salary cap, nothing will change. Suarez is one of the best players in the world, and Arsenal should try to buy him. It is then up to Wenger to resolve any issues with regard to his attitude. Arsenal for life.
Correct mate. Arsenal need a bit of what Suarez brings
Arsenal need… racists and insanity.
Got it.
And then there are the 30 goals, the beautiful football and the outstanding work ethic. But who needs those?
so if a player can score 30 goals, and plays nice football, ANYTHING is acceptable?
biting and racism, OK if you can score 30.
in that case, should Aaron Hernandez be good to go for the New England Patriots this season?
I mean, he’s either murdered someone or is an accessory to murder, but hell… nobody seems to be able to cover the guy at tight end…
when Suarez goes on to bite a 3rd time, or worse, then what?
does it depend on how many goals he’s got at the time?
Aaron Hernandez is a murderer. Luis Suarez bit two guys on a football pitch. Stupid, but hardly the same. Last I say Ivanovic he was lifting a European trophy, not lying dead in a morgue.
Sorry our club is different and is built on different principles. We won with those principles before and we’ll do it again. Shouldn’t sacrifice that because everyone else is jumping off a bridge
Ah love you Scousers. The fact you are commenting on an Arsenal site shows how much you actually fear this move. If I wasn’t so repulsed by the man I’d almost want him just to piss you self-righteous victimized idiots.
Fact is Adams drinking was part and parcel of the culture of the time. Vieira’s spitting was hardly cheating or biting or being a racist.
Every where Donkey has gone he has been a cheat and a problem. He fits in so well with Liverpool because he is always the victim and never the problem – just like you. Now do us all a favor and do one.
lol wind up the gooner, yeah must be great seing such class replacements for rvp, fabregas joining your club oh wait that doesnt happen you buy sh*** and see 4th spot as an achievement you are proper loosers. getting in the champions league is your goal, not winning it like normal teams, proper sad acts.
And you buy what and got what? 7th place? *th place? Hell Everton is closer to the Champion’s League then your team. Move along little man.
He;s right though and most Gunners know it. A club the size of Arsenal has the right to be able to fight to win a Champions League. With Wenger, there’s no chance of winning it. As soon as he meets a big club he’s found out.
I respect Arsenal fans, great football people. But I lost respect for Wenger years ago. His trophies are on the balance sheet nowadays, not on the field.
Yeah loads of footballers were jailed like Adams. Spitting so much better than biting. Great captain eh?
Pires never dived. Wenger never ever saw it. Liars or cheats?
He’s Too good for Arsenal. Short memories from the drunken drug takers that used to play for Arsenal but hey at least they won things.
But it’s ok to have an alcoholic drink driver like Adams captain your club. The worst diver ever I Pires and a captain who spits at west ham players?
Do me a favour hypocrite
deluded…..bet ur jerkin off right now about writing an article where luis is linked to your pathetic club, stick to your free transfers and no trophies match made in heaven.
At last
A website echoing my exact words I have been repeatedly saying.
The little chipmunk in an absolute disgrace to the human race and even though he is a brilliant player it would be my worst nightmare to see him in the Arsenal shirt.
I am proud that we won the fair play award but with him in our side , forget it
Fans are getting so desperate for a major signing they will accept anyone.
NOT ME
Who’s that team we call the Arsenal?
Who’s that team we all adore?
They’re the boys in red and white
And they fight with all their might
And they’re gonna show the world just how they score
C.O.Y.G
Ian,
You’re proud of the fair play award? Really? I’m sorry but it’s comments like these that cause people like the scouser to come in here and poke fun at us. Were we winning fair play awards when we were winning trophies? Were we f*ck. We were amassing red cards at a record rate and had several “killers” in our side.
And it would seem you’re even trying to spruce up our image with your song lyrics. Where do you sit, in the family section? The correct ending to the song is as follows:
“We’re the boys in red and white and we’re f*cking dynamite, and (George Graham’s/Harry Redknapp’s/Whoever is in charge of Tottenham’s) mother is a whoooooore. She’s a whore, she’s a whore, she’s a whoooooore.”
Not only wouldn’t I celebrate any goal he scored… if we were to sign this a-hole, I would literally stop supporting the club. It would signal that the people running the club, the management, manager, etc… had completely lost the plot, and turned its back on everything “Arsenal” has allegedly stood for…
There isn’t even a place in the game for someone like Luis Suarez… he needs mental help.
He will undoubtedly continue to do the things he has done before… who BITES another player, and then BITES someone else a few years later?
Do you think a suspension will stop that? Didn’t stop it from happening again… that’s for sure.
It is an utterly ridiculous idea… I’d prefer NO SIGNINGS than signing Suarez.
Anyone else wonder if the bid for Suarez is to make it easier for Real to sign him, and in return we get Higuain?
We bid £30m, makes anything over that from Real seem desirable.
Doesn’t seem like Wenger, but Arsenal always do everything in secret, so what would they care about making a bid that would certainly get rejected.
Liam I have a faint hope that this is what it still is. But the way we’ve gone about business in last few years makes me worried we are actually in for him.
This conspiracy theory regarding Higuain and Suarez is complete nonsense.
According to the Sun, ,who claimed a deal had been done for Higuain with Arsaenal , Real then raised the price from 23 m to a higher figure , so how could a deal have been done then !
Alright even if this were the case why not just pay a bit more for Higuain rather than go to all of this nonsense with Suarez? Two or three million is not much if he is really the player that Wenger wants.
I can’t see it myself and believe that it’s all football agent orientated to try and broker deals that they can earn money from.
I don’t get that logic. It’s not like Liverpool HAS to sell, if they don’t think what Real bid is enough they won’t take it regardless of who else bid close
If anything this would seem to be leverage to drive the price higher on RM. They would be the preferred club for Liverpool to send Suarez to, but if we keep driving our bids up it would force RM to at least match.
So I can see this being all about Higuain, but I think it’s hardball tactics, saying we can drive Suarez’s price way up on them if they keep driving Higuain’s price up on us, not extending an olive branch
Suarez has a buy out clause in his contact. So if another club matches it he can leave. This connection with Higuain is nonsense,if Wenger wants him then why,seeing that he’s awash with money,at least according to Ivan,doesn’t he just concentrate on getting him .,
The pushing up prices ,etc, all looks rather unlikely ,surely Real would be able to work out what is going on.
Ok, so until someone actually meets it Liverpool still doesn’t have to sell. And Arsenal jumping into the bidding doesnt make them any more likely to sell to Real. Unless Liverpool think we gonna met it, but even then they’re not gonna want to accept significantly less than they could get just to send him abroad, so Real will still have to get close. All that drives the price up. And sure Real knows what’s going on, but it’s still a game of chicken for them and they might rather just take our offer for Higuain.
As for why Wenger would do this rather than just pay? Because he doesn’t like paying more than he thinks someone is worth and he doesn’t want to risk Real pushing it up more if they make a bid at the new price. He might even take the new price, this is just a shot across the bow about any more shenanigans
Your theory reads like something from a TV soap opera . Originally you claimed that Liverpool did not have to sell Suarez if they did not want to do so.
Perez has already said that there has been no offers from Wenger to buy Higuain, and everyone knows that 40m is the minimum (due to the buy out clause) that anyone must offer for Suarez. . He will probably end up at City or Chelsea and Higuain will stay at Madrid.
Yeah, and no one has reach his release clause yet so they still don’t have to if they don’t want to. You still haven’t clarified why Arsenal bidding helps
Yeah,right,Arsenal are not bidding for Suarez as far as I am aware,you should stop believing everything that you read on Google.
Oh, my mistake, I just realized you weren’t the one suggesting us bidding on Suarez would help Real. Obviously everything should be taken with a grain of salt, I was just theorizing about a possible reasoning IF it were true