They Might Be Giants: Arsenal 4 – Portsmouth 1, Match Review
Q: What’s 5’6″ and 25 years old?
A: The average height and age of Arsenal’s front line that played at Fratton park yesterday.
So what does that mean? So far, not a lot. Actually in spite of its size deficiencies up front and without a bona-fide striker Arsenal have scored a whopping 15 goals in 6 games (2-0 v Stoke, 2-1 v Pool, 1-1 v Burnley, 3-0 Hull, 3-0 v Villa, and 4-1 v Pompey). They’ve once again gone to scoring more than any team in the league and have scored 51 goals quicker than any team ever has (with a game in hand mind you). More importantly Arsenal sit only 4 points off the lead set by Chelsea and 2 points behind Manchester United. With the game in hand to be played on 6 January Arsenal could find themselves in 2nd by 1 point and behind Chelsea by only 1 point.
All this comes because of a string of consistent play from the Gunners. That run was culminated on their last game of the New Year when they completely outplayed and outclassed Avram Grant’s Portsmouth side.
Portsmouth started out the match like you pretty much would’ve expected, quickly and with purpose. As much as the Gunners needed 3 points to stay close on the title hunt, Pompey needed the 3 points to stave off relegation. And while Arsenal had most of the play its was the home side that had the first good chance of the match. Pressing up on the counter-attack, Piquionne sped up the right side beating most of the Arsenal defenders back. Unfortunately for him his angle was off and Manuel Almunia had an easy save on the shot.
From their on in it was all Arsenal. Typical to their play, they held the ball with a 70% – 30% possession statistic at one point. Also typical to Arsenal they looked quite threatening but had yet to convert one of their opportunities. That was until Moekoena brought Aaron Ramsey down just outside the top of the Pompey penalty box. For the third time in as many games, Arsenal were presented with another chance to open the scoring and like the previous two matches Arsenal would not be denied.
With the wall set one of the Pompey players pulled out of the wall to help protect one side of the goal mouth. It was in that opening that Eduardo shot the ball to see it careen off of Kaboul’s knee and fly into the net. Going into the Hull match Arsenal hadn’t scored a goal from a free kick since late 2007. They’ve now managed 3 in their last 3 – all of them to open up the scoring of the match.
Eduardo, who need the goal scoring booth was credited with the goal because as I understand it, his shot was on target. Whether or not Begovic would’ve saved it is irrelevant, if the shot is on target during a deflection than it will be credited to the kicker and not counted as a goal.
Pompey had the chance to try and equalize as they pushed forward but the Arsenal defense effectively shut down any chances Portsmouth had. The back four since the Chelsea drubbing have been a model of consistency, from their positioning, their play on set pieces and their overall presence have been huge. This is coming mostly from the centre of the field with the play of Gallas and Vermaelen. Gallas looks like he is back to his intimidating self and Vermaelen is our new muscle who is playing with an edge. Together they are probably the only cente back pairing of the contenders that has managed to play every league match together. And while they didn’t know each other at the beginning of the season, it seems they enjoy playing along each other and it has helped each of them in their play. Throw in great play by Sagna and lately by Armond Traore and the back four aren’t as much a concern as they would have tought to be.
Manuel Almunia on the other hand, still seems shaky and punches too many balls he should be catching. But it was another solid game for the Spaniard. There was only two real blunders I saw, a mis played punch (he missed) and a feed to an Arsenal defender that was far too close to a Pompey attacker that had he been a player of quality he could’ve gotten on the ball =and surely beaten Manny.
But I digress.
Arsenal would go on to have 4 different players score. They wouldn’t need Cesc Fabregas to jump start their play – from the get go they were on. The second goal was as much a testament to their skill as it is to the respect Portsmouth defense gave them. With Eduardo controlling the ball around the Pompey box, none of the defenders closed him to cut off his space – why who knows – but Eduardo was able to wait for Ramsey and Nasri to join in and then he let the ball go to Ramsey who flicked it on to Nasri who created his own space and cleanly beat Bergovic with a shot to the wide post and out of the ‘keepers’s reach.
Enough can’t be said of the development of Aaron Ramsey. While he likely has some more time developing before he can become a regular on the field he shows repeatedly why Arsene was sokeen to get him two years ago. He had a couple errant passes in the beginning of the match but overall his play was workman like, cool and collected and you can see that he will in no time be able to run this Arsenal squad. His goal which essentially put the game away was almost Fabregas like in its ability to find the back of the net. And it was all his own doing. Winning the ball back from Portsmouth as they tried to hoof it out of their box, Ramsey swung around made some space and sent and absolute cracker of shot past the Pompey keeper. When he got the ball and with the space given – you knew – like you know when Fab has that kind of room – that the ball was going in. Like I said, I still believe the lad has some way to go but he is absolutely making the case for his play.
Portsmouth were able to draw the game to 3-1 on an opportunte goal from Belhadj. Opportune I say because the trajectory could’ve easily have carried it over the bar. But it was a result of the one mistake the Arsenal defense made all night as the left Belhadj in the centre of the box where he was able to put an unscathed foot on the ball. Frankly, as easy as it is to blame Almunia, there was nothing he could do.
The final nail in the coffin was as clinical a header as you would see. Again, Portsmouth was woeful in clearing the ball in their zone and Arsenal won it back as Nasri intercepted an errant pass. Nasri was allowed to walk into the far right of the box where he lofted a ball that Alexnader Song lept sky high and directed the ball in the net with his head. It was a header as you are taught to do. It had direction, speed and eyes for the net. And it was all fitting that Song’s last league match for the next 3 weeks would result in a goal. He doesn’t score them often but he makes the most of the opportunities he has. Song is a big reason Arsenal are going on this run.
Alot of the other players also deserve mention and again Abou Diaby put in another performance. His attacking nature was again evident and while he did not score he had a beautiful opportunity that was saved by an amazing reach by Bergovic. Thomas Vermaelen was his normal “hard” self going face to face with Hughes at one point and you just wanted him to deck him. Sagna was amazingly quick for the day and if he just doesn’t out and out beat people with speed better than any right back in the league, I don’t know who does. There were moments where he simply won balls that were closer to the opposition because his speed was so advantageous. And finally I have to say that Aarmond Traore will one day go back to the bench – which is unfortunate because frankly, he has been solid in every one of his starts. He has pace and strength and when someone can go leg for leg with Gabby Abonglahor (against Villa) that says something. He made one or two bad passes but over all he was solid again. When Clichy and Gibbs return, Arsenal will have 3 solid left backs. Given the injury bug this team always has – thats not a bad thing.
I also want to mention the play of Andrei Arshavin. I don’t know whether to be frustrated with the lad or just accept that this is how he plays. It could be that when Arsenal buy a new striker or one miraculously heals he will be better back on his natural wing. But he is so uninvolved at times I just wonder if this is why Arsene didn’t by him during the summer of 2008 when his stock was so high. Personally, I would switch Eduardo back to the middle and put Arshavin on the wing. When that was done against Hull it changed the dynamic of the game and AA23 was able to penetrate deeper with the ability to take the shot or pass it on to Eduardo. That set more quality chances against Hull than the current formation is doing (AA23 central forward and Eduardo wing). Again who knows, but AA23 has been too quiet. But again maybe thats a good thing because others need to step up.
It was also nice to see the return of Rosicky – TR7 came on briefly for Dudu and had a quality shooting chance that missed the far upper corner by about 6 inches. Let’s hope he can stay healthy. He has an uncanny ability to make passes that just don’t seem there. The match also saw the brief appearance by Craig Eastmond. Many wonder why Wilshere didn’t feature and I think it has to do with the liklihood that he will be loaned out in January. I suspect that he will also play a role in the FA Cup squad as will Fran Merida.
All in all in it was a productive holiday season taking maximum points from all matches. In their last 6 matches they have taken a whopping 16 of 18 points and are clearly in the hunt for the title. There is a string of winnable matches coming up prior to a run of 4 matches at the end of January that see Arsenal play Villa, United, Chelsea and Liverpool. They should concentrate on taking maximum points up until that point and then with returning squad members and possible transfer window purchases coming in be in a good position for making the most of those four fixtures.
A final note – as I was writing this it was announced that Diaby has signed a new long-term deal. The exact details weren’t announced. Funny how that deal comes on the back of three solid performances and past the slew of extensions that were signed in November. With that signing, it seems Arsene has tied up most of his core players through at least 2014. Should they all manage to stay together for that time – it is quite possible that were are on the cusp of a dawn of Arsenal success. Still we have another half a season to play. Let’s see what we do here shall we before we dream of possibilities.
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and Wenger said basically, he doesn’t care about the FA Cup…
and will treat it as such… the League is more important.
good to know.
built in excuse if we lose, and the wait for trophies can continue.
when you haven’t won shit in 5 years, you go for every one you can play for… we don’t play in the CL until… February?
(and I don’t count the CC as a real trophy)
Uhhh….. So…..just to be clear….
Is tomorrow’s match one in which you would support rotating the squad or should we “go for it” and play our best 11?
As it is we may see our top keeper in action….
I would play some of the kids, personally.
First of all, with Cesc out, Ramsey should play… maybe even Wilshire.
Song’s last game before the ACoN, so he’s in…
I don’t think Eduardo has played well, even if he scored … almost missed from 3 yards out, and only scored because of the deflection.
I’d play Vela up front.
But for me… at the BACK… Gallas or Vermaelen need REST. They can NOT play every single freaking match. Asking for an injury to occur.
I want us to win, obviously, but with Wenger’s history, and him already saying the FA Cup is not that important to him, I guess I just lose some of the excitement for the match. He hasn’t cared about the FA Cup for about 5 years.
So, I think you’re saying that you would field just about exactly the same team that AW will field tomorrow….
Of course, we’ll see at kickoff…
I think we’re all thinking the same thing: that our team is plenty deep enough to beat West Ham while resting the players who need some.
IMO West Ham want out of this competition badly as they are even more injured than we are and a facing a huge relegation fight. They’re even sending out e-mails to their fans to (not give up on the match and) try to get them out to the park. Upton Park is only a short distance from Islington so our traveling support should be strong. For sure it would be a cheaper way to see the team if you’re in London.
Fingers crossed for another comfortable road victory, spreading confidence deeper into the squad. (And, of course, as always, no more injuries, please…)
Regarding our club’s philosophy regarding transfers and youth signings discussed above….
Why is it bad to have an “arm” of our club signing (and attempting to develop) young players. As fans we only have so much time and energy to follow our club and our interests (and emotions) are mostly focused on our first team and whatever game is at hand. However, I feel very pleased that we have scouts and coaches working hard to identify the future stars of our game and bring them (possibly) into our team. Other, far wiser, observers of the club and the game have demonstrated how this can help our club overall, as we (generally) make profit on these young players and have the inside track on their services (and loyalty) if they make the grade. If those structures weren’t in place we’d have to rely on watching other players in matches (or maybe in YouTube clips?) and relying on those judgements to make our transfer decisions and build our team.
Hell, I could be manager if that were the case…. ;-)
OK, Holiday season winding down with 3rd round FA Cup action, but we’re all far more concerned with transfer window activity and our assessment of our club….
So far nothing–for us nor any of our rivals. As far as I can tell nobody has announced any transfers of any sort.
The most interesting thing from Arsenal is the idea that Phillipe Senderos is set to play tomorrow at West Ham. To me it indicates that his impending transfer (to Bayern, Atletico, Everton?) has fallen through, or maybe the CB/DM we’ve had our eye on is unobtainable and Sendy will be our guy. For me, he’s a known quantity (though it’s been a WHILE) and I hope he’s up to it, for his sake (Switzerland are in the WC and Sendy needs good games) and ours. Maybe the mobility of Fabianski in goal will make up for the lack thereof from Sendy and Silvestre in front of them. Certainly it should make for some exciting spectating….
Middlesboro playing Man City in the FA Cup in the snow….neither Ade nor Ali to feature however….I’ll sit in the GDC if anyone cares to chat….
Fun stats from our friends at F365:
* Arsenal have not lost to a team currently outside the top half of the Premier League since November 2008 v Stoke.
* The Gunners have scored an average of 3.6 goals per game against bottom-half sides this season.
* Abou Diaby and Cesc Fabregas have both already scored more Premier League goals this season than in any other campaign.
one more..
*Fabregas has scored twice as many goals as Adebayor so far this season as a midfielder.
*While Diaby has scored as many goals as Adebayor so far this season as a midfielder.
*And Vermaelen has scored one goal less than Adebayor so far this season as a defender!
That. Is. Awesome.
But, hey. Ade got a big paycheck and that’s all that matters, right? All is else is just hatin’.
;-)
I think Arsene’s vision is starting to become clear. Decisions made as far back as 10 years ago are really starting to bear fruit. The amount of talented young players coming through is just ridiculous.
Arsene is not perfect (GK, central defence), but I am tending to agree with Josh, this team will be unbelievable in 3-4 years. (But with Josh’s same caveat – we keep selling off our best players to make way for the younger players).
I like Arsene’s economics – it gives me pride that Arsenal is a sustainably run football club. Part of developing the young players means selling off the ones that won’t make it to fund new purchases, thus keeping net spend down.
I see a day where we Arsenal can successfully implement Real Madrid’s failed Galacticos experiment. Buy one amazing player each year, while developing the rest inhouse. No other club in the world will be better placed than Arsenal to do this once the Stadium debt eases.
The team will NOT be together in 3-4 years.
Fabregas and Arshavin, most likely not.
As for the other players, IF they ever become very good, the big clubs will offer them TRIPLE their current salary and they will NOT think twice about abandoning ship.
So in other words, in 3-4 years we will be exactly where we are now. NOWHERE.
PS: Does a “sustainably” run club PAY 3.5 million for a 17 year old Brazillian kid who has NEVER played in Europe before?!
Hmmm… is it your INTENTION to sound like Stag? Or are you being serious?
But in answer to your question – MAYBE.
Knowing Wenger he’ll probably turn out to be the next FABREGAS. Better buying him at 3.5mn than 35mn.
Once the stadium debt becomes more SERVICEABLE, why is it not feasible that Arsenal will be able to afford the highest transfer fees and wages?
oh, right… the stadium debt excuse.
why build it, if that’s going to be the excuse for the next? 10 years? 20 years?
when is it no longer a valid excuse. Please let me know.
Do you realise there is a global financial crisis?
You lunatic hippies might have an argument about not needing to buy in DM, ST or GK positions but SURELY you can not argue about the need for a competent backup for Gallas/Vermalaen.
Gallas has gotten injured in EVERY single season since he moved to England.
I would love to hear an argument from you on why Wenger doesnt need to buy in that position at the very least.
Wenger will feel that with Senderos, he has four central defeners and in an emergency, he has Alex Song. If he sells Senderos, he will definitely try to bring in a replacement but if he can’t find the right guy, Wenger will not fret at going the rest of the season with only three recognized CB’s and Song. For all intents and purposes, that’s four central defenders.
Before you start throwing knives, recognize that I’m not advocating this train of thought but everyone that’s objective knows that this is how Wenger thinks. I guess it’s not really an argument but more the likely course of action.
Once again, the only thing I’ve said is I think that in a few years, this will be one of the best teams the world has ever seen; if Wenger can keep them together.
Of your three recognized CBs, you count Silvestre right???
Hahahahahahahahahhahahaha!
Before having such a looney train of thought why dont you THINK of the keeper we have between the goals and the lack of cover in midfield. Then think of Silvestre’s failings.
Then ponder what that will mean in a Champions League knock out stage or in the later stages of the league.
If Wenger fails to backup the CB position and it all ends very predictably, he should face the guillotine.
Am happy his contract hasnt been extended yet.
I don’t see why immediate success cannot be married with long term viability. Calling fans who have waited 5 years for a trophy as impatient is a tad unfair. I know Liverpool haven’t won the league for 20 years, but that is exactly my point. I don’t want Arsenal to become another Liverpool. :)
It is important to win trophies not just to keep important players but also to boost the confidence and mentality of the youth. It is easy to say that young players will gain experience with every passing year. But if you aren’t winning anything, that experience could simply be playing beautiful football without having match winning instincts.
It has been mentioned before that both Chelsea and ManU used the Carling Cup and FA Cup as spring boards to their league success in 05-06 and 07-09 respectively. Arsene could have done the same last year with the FA Cup. Instead, he chose to throw it away by not playing Arshavin. If that is not sitting on your high horse, then I don’t know what is.
Yes, signing players is no guarantee of winning. But then again, so is not signing players too. Yet again, Arsene is willing to put all eggs in the league basket by playing the kids in the FA Cup. Even Sendy, who will be cup tied and therefore I can assume won’t move, will be playing. If we can write off the FA Cup, then we better make sure that we have more than a fighting chance of winning the league.
Still I (somehow) feel that Arsene will sign a player or two in January. Let us wait and watch.
don’t see why immediate success cannot be married with long term viability. Calling fans who have waited 5 years for a trophy as impatient is a tad unfair.
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Exactly. That’s whats being repeated over and over again. ‘Just wait and see.’
stagg has been getting grief for years. But, by and large, he’s been right.
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“That’s why you don’t just throw money unless you know what your getting.”
That’s a joke, right? What other team in the Prem pays more to kids who haven’t proven shite than Arsenal?
And what does that mean, anyway? NOBODY on here here has EVER suggested spending money thoughtlessly. As the French would say, That’s a big ‘no duh’.
Over and over again it’s been two or three clear, specific thoughts by the realists (which doesn’t make us negative). Experienced DM and CB, and ideally a GK. It’s not enough to have a world of POTENTIAL at such crucial positions. We’re in competition NOW.
Four years ago, we were arguing opinions about how developing the youth and protecting their fragile psychology would go. Now we know have that went, in fact. Some players have developed (such as Song), others haven’t (such as Theo). And we haven’t won anything.
I don’t see how people can still be arguing with a simple facts like those.
Doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is definition of insanity. That mentality will keep this board lively forever. But it won’t win any trophies.
If you’ve read my posts I haven’t accused anyone of being impatient. Neither have I said that we shouldn’t be in for trophies this season.
Let’s get it straight; I’ve said about ten times that in a few short years, I believe this Arsenal team will be one of the best the world has ever seen. That’s what I’ve said to wait for. I’ve never said to wait for silverware. I’ve never said we don’t need to buy cover. Go back a day, three days, three years. All that I’ve ever said is in black and white. When I was a kid, we used to call it reading comprehension.
Last season, Man Utd won the title but they were not one of the best teams ever. I believe this Arsenal team will be on another level.
The Highbury Arsenal would buy whenever they lost a player. When Anelka left, buy Henry. When Overmars left, Pires. Gilberto for Petit, Campbell for Adams, etc. etc. The Emirates project is indeed different and sometimes frustrating, but it is what it is. What are you going to do?
“That’s why you don’t just throw money unless you know what your getting.”
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I read that and comprehend it, thanks. What I don’t comprehend is how that fits in to throwing a bunch of money at unproven teenagers. Again. And again. Still waiting for the answer on that. Use small words, if you think it will help.
My mention of Melo and Huuntelaar was because those were the two that posters here wanted the most last year. They were also two of the most expensive transfers.
But they also happened to be two of the players shortlisted as being the worst player in Italy with Melo taking the honors. I didn’t think Melo could offer us enough to justify half of the asking price and I’ve always said that Huuntelaar would be another Kezman if he came to England.
Really, who would rather have Melo than Song now? I’ll bet Juventus would do a one for one swap in a heartbeat.
I’ve got to go to bed. Happy New Year, boys.
I know of VERY few people on the old board and this one actually crying for Melo and Huntelaar.
Infact, I didnt even want a striker to begin with.
I just wanted a competent “no-name” DM that we could get for 10 million.
PS: Failing in Serie A is actually a recipe for succeeding at Arsenal. Go ask Henry, Bergkamp and Vieira.
I think his point is that people were crying for them over the summer.
Understand, I’m not saying Arsenal should abandon the whole idea of buying someone in January. I’m just busting stag’s balls a little bit because he says the same thing every year. My point is buying is not always the answer.
Also, I’m not saying that the team can’t win something this year. If Wenger goes out and buys one player or four players, I’d be as excited as everyone else to see what the new guy(s) will bring to the side. However, I’m not expecting anything special from a January buy until the next season. They need time. They shouldn’t have the pressure to come in on top of their game when they still haven’t learned their way around town. If they can give us something immediately, that’s great. But you don’t buy a player in January needing them to perform right away. That’s what many are expecting.
Example, in the unbeaten season, we bought Reyes in January and he did well but we didn’t need him to help us win the title that year. If Wenger was worried about cover for Song, he would have bought in the summer, not wait until January. With that, we have been unlucky with injuries and decisions must be made. Will Wenger believe in Eduardo, Vela, and Walcott to rediscover form and stand in the gap or should he go out and buy experience players like Huuntelaar and Felipe Melo? Therein lies the dilemma, boys. That’s why you don’t just throw money unless you know what your getting.
I don’t mind the ball-busting, as long as Wenger either acts or gets fired!
;)
If we were gonna be cut throat about the whole thing I would do this in January:
1) Buy Denilson a one way ticket to Dodge and urge Wenger to buy ‘that’ midfielder he’s had his eye on for a long time, and just accelerate those plans and bring him in as soon as. Preferably one that Merida can actually learn from and not be disillusioned when picked ahead of him. I notice the young Spaniard is the only one of the ‘brat pack’ who has not signed a new contract…….
2) Release Rosicky and bring in a top class wide attacker who can devastate on both wings. Rosicky looks like he’s in dream land when he comes on these days, just thankful he can negotiate the treacherous journey from dug out to sideline without doing a cruciate.
3) Probably a new goal keeper. Not really a position that interests me, hence why I barely ever mention it in my rants, and I still think people focus a bit too much on it when its been malaise in midfield that has cost us, but I suppose it has to be addressed.
4) A new striker. It seems my hope in that position, Vela, will not get the backing of Wenger in the absence of Bendtner, RVP, etc, so again it’s time for Arsene to hasten the inevitable, and bring in that forward he’s been planning on making a move for.
5)A central defender. This is just a no-brainer. Gallas is bound to get injured soon and with Senderos looking likely to leave, new blood looks certain.
So, that’s five new players. Three that are fanciful, and pretty unlikely, and two that are a necessity. What’s the bets that one of the neccessities quickly becomes fanciful, at least in the eyes of Arsene? ;)
Geez, Stag is coming in for some harsh criticism on here. While I probably don’t agree with everything he says, I still think some of points are valid. What everyone else has replied with, that it’ll be awesome when the kids mature- is true. But buying 1, maybe 2 experienced players (yeah I’d like 3 or 4, but let’s be realistic) will not stifle anyone’s development, and may actually help them develop buy providing experience, leadership, and confidence. It would also (hopefully) help us to some silverware.
Look at some of Arsene’s recent signings: Ramsey, Eduardo, Sagna, Arshavin, Vermaelen. Have any of them stifled development of younger players in the team? Not really. And, I understand Stag’s frustration: look at the 07/08 season. I still believe we could’ve won had Arsene strengthened by even just ONE measly player in the January window. So I understand Stag’s frustration.
This crop of Arsenal players will be worth the wait, but why does that mean you can’t go for it now? Winning some silverware would only hasten their development. The two goals are not mutually exclusive. And, you can’t possibly say we don’t have the money, not when we lead the entire world in gate receipts, and after we have all seen the data about transfer profits that Andez posted a few threads back.
I think we should go for a GK first, but they’re hard to come buy. CB would be next, then ST, then DM. I’ll be happy w/ just one player, so I know Arsene will at least have a go at it this year.
Ramsay’s performance the other night has ramped up my optimism levels to unpredecented levels.
Outside of Fabregas, the best midfield display I’ve seen from an Arsenal midfielder this season. He didn’t just do the big things well (like score a goal), he also kept concentration and focus and never let his level drop after the goal or when the game was meandering. That’s been a pet hate of mine of years and the likes of Diaby and Song still do it – fall asleep when the game gets too easy.
Ramsay also made run after run through the centre – another sign of class. Of course, his performance has to be tempered by the level of opposition, but he’s had complete nightmares against worse, so I think the game is still a significant turning point.
Ramsey reminds me a lot of Paul Scholes.
Scholes is one the few English footballers (outside Arsenal) I really like. His greatest assets – powerful strike, solid all around technic, good football IQ, and good at running off the ball.
Those are exactly the qualities Ramsey has, though not yet as polished as Scholes.
If one day Cesc does leave, I don’t think Ramsey will ever be the playmaker the way Cesc is (Wilshere or Merida is more close to a playmaker), but he will a very good all actions midfielder for us.
I think that’s why Wenger believes Ramsay and Cesc can play together.
Ramsay can play right back or wing, and so he could easily play as right sided central midfielder alongside Fabregas, in the position Denilson usually plays.
As ever though, the problem is chemistry and Ramsay remaining confident and daring in Cesc’s presence. So far he seems a bit over awed playing with him and makes mistakes. Once he gets over that they could be devastating pair.
Ramsey love you, too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/6917861/Opportunity-knocks-for-Aaron-Ramsey-at-Arsenal.html
Paul Scholes can’t tackle to save his life though. But, his intellegence usually negates that.
Just found something you all might find interesting:
Last year going into 1 January 2009 we were:
30 points, 29 goals scored, 25 goals allowed in 19 games.
Today going into 1 January 2010 we are:
41 points, 51 goals scored, 21 goals allowed in 18 games.
At the end of last season we were 18 points BEHIND league winners Manchester United and this year we are already 11 points better than last.
Arsenal of 09/10 have a goal scoring ratio of 2.68 goals per match. Overall we have scored 22 more goals than last season and our defence – as shaky has its been – has let in 4 LESS goals than this same point this season.
Stag, understand, I’m not saying we shouldn’t strengthen this month. My post was to point out how you seem to believe buying players is the only solution. Every January, it’s the same thing from you. Think about this; could you imagine at the beginning of the season that we would be without van Persie and Bendtner as long as we have and with Eduardo, Vela, and Walcott not really contributing with goals, yet we’re the top scorers in the league and, for all intents and purposes, one point off of first place? Many of our players may be young but they’ve got big talent.
Personally, I like what Arsene is doing. He’s got a bunch of super-talented young players who, when they hit mid to late twenties, will be at their best, will already know each other’s game intimately, and will have big experience. Who can stop that? How many 22 year olds have as many BPL games as Fabregas? Maybe Milner and Rooney. Wenger is building an entire squad in that mold. The cool thing is as good as Fab is, he’s still developing. The same goes for Song, Denilson, Diaby, Ramsey, Vela, etc.
I’m telling you, in a few years we are going to have one of the best squads the world has ever seen. Understand, Steve, that’s not to say that we have to wait until then to have your funny salt. Right now, our squad is good enough to beat any team. In a few years we’ll be like Barca were in 08/09 and, with our academy, we should be able to sustain that form indefinitely. In the past, I’ve thought of Arsene’s attempt to revolutionize football absurd, but many thought going an entire season unbeaten was equally absurd. Try to be patient and enjoy the ride.
Josh, actually I can guess it how Stag’s going to response to this post of you –
IN A FEW YEARS? GET REAL. Arsene will sell Fabregas in the summer, then either pocket the money himself (or the board divided them among themselves) instead of injecting the money on new players.
And.. If we don’t WIN ANYTHING NOW, all our best players will LEAVE.
So get down from your high horse Wenger, THE FUTURE IS NOW!!
And STOP BUYING ANYMORE KIDS. What’s the point of developing the kids than selling them?
We haven’t won F8CK ALL in so many years. Just look at MAN U, CHELSEA. They SPENT money, they WON title. As simple as that.
Do you seriously think Chelsea and Man U are not going to buy anyone in January???!!
The best squads in the world in a few years?? Stop drinking your Kool Aid!!
:)
That’s what happens when you keep reading the same stuff for so many years. ;)
Andez and Josh.
Yes. Andez is right on with what I will say.
Why?
Because its TRUE.
Andez, been saying that for… 4 or 5 years now, and we have NOT won fucking anything. that’s FACT.
I have also heard about how wonderful our team is going to be in a few years with all the great young guns. over and over and over.
Andez, do we sell our star players, or am I imagining it? Do we make a nice profit from them, and then not re-invest it, or am I imagining it?
I know that’s OK with you, because you don’t care about the supporters getting fleeced every year, skyrocketing ticket prices, and the fact that regular supporters can’t even go to matches any more…
but if you are going to price out your real fans, the least you can do is:
a) try to WIN a trophy
b) actually spend/re-invest all the money your making
You can keep your same tone of WENGER LOVE and Arsenal can do no wrong in the football world…
I will keep HOPING they actually act on the chance(s) they have to win a trophy, and address issues that CAN be addressed.
If I get my wish and they spend and we win, I’ll be happy.
You will probably be angry that we sold out and bought players?
However, if we do NOTHING, and we win, I’ll still be happy… say I was wrong, and Wenger will be crowned the genius of all-time.
I just wouldn’t hold my breath or bet my house on us winning anything significant without additional talent coming in.
You keep waving those pom-poms.
I’ll keep praying Wenger sees the light.
First let me say I can understand what some of the naysayers are going to say.
It is very hard being a patient fan when it is all about winning. Who wants to wait for next year when some else’s fans get to celebrate this year? It’s a case of I want that and I want it now (Veruka Salt). To be honest as much as that isn’t me – I clearly understand it.
I live around Philadelphia. In terms of sports we were a city devoid of championships in any major sport for 25 years. That was until 2008 when the Phillies won it it all. Almost did it again in 2009. The point there is, the Phillies have steadily improved with a core of young players that in the last 6 years have become outright superstars. If that core was not there and allowed to develop they would never have gotten there. No matter what senior talent was brought in.
The point is – it is often hard to sit and wait. I did it for 25 years – I HATED IT. But at the same time looking back, I am glad these players were allowed to develop and bring us the glory in ’08 and whats great they likely will have another 2-3 chances at it in the next 4 years. I’ll take that return.
I am more than happy to watch this crop develop – I can see what the future holds if they are allowed. I would argue they do need a player like a Vierra to come in and be a player/coach if you will. Someone to bring that experience and maturity factor. But in the long run, I say let the kids grow up and let United and Chelsea get the plaudits right now. We are very close to an Arsenal revolution.
Agree DAG.
Let’s be honest, nobody wants to “wait” for success.
It’s all about trying to “understand” the situation our manager and our club are facing.
There is only ONE Premiership title, ONE Champions League trophy… and lot of clubs fighting for them.
Many of them are far richer than us.
If we are trying to take on them cash to cash and play the “buying” game, we are dead meat.
For a club like Arsenal to win the title naturally it’s more difficult than the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea.
If we had a bottomless finanical support, who would bother to buy and develop youngsters?
But the FACT, and TRUTH is… we DON’T have that much of resource. So we have no alternative but to BUILD a side.
And whenever someone wants to BUILD something, no matter what business they are in, it TAKES TIME.
There’s no shortcut for it.
Those who tried to get there via a shortcut, more often than not they ended up at another level – the Championship or lower league. Look at Leeds, they didn’t exactly get relegated yesterday. How long since they dropped to the lower leagues?.. and they are still there.
BULLSHIT on the “many teams” are richer than we are.
We are richer than 99% of the teams in England.
So I am sure Portsmouth and Bolton don’t want to hear about us being … not quite as rich as Chelsea.
How much time do we wait, in which we SELL OFF star players over and over and over again? How is that building? That’s re-building, after taking steps backward… over and over.
In a away, I can understand why Stag said what he said. He’s one of the posters here that flies to London and watch the game in the stadium year in year out. That costs a lot of money to watch unfinished goods.
It’s easy for us watching in front of tube or “illegal” online streaming to say be patient, not so for the fans that actually foot the bills.
One good reason for wanting Arsenal to win is so that we can keep watching those talented players to stay and play together for years to come. Time and time again we’ve seen them close to finish line but found wanting and players decided to move on. Arsenal have to re-start, ad infinitum.
Chelsea’s business model is not sustainable, but strengthening the squad with one or two ready made players isn’t a shortcut. Arsenal didn’t go bust after buying Arshavin. The kids that Arsenal signed are not cheap either. Unless Arsenal sign local school kids around London, either way we cut it, Arsenal spend millions.
DAG.
Cliff Lee.
Roy Halladay.
Are you dissapointed that the Phillies are spending on talent to try and keep the run going?
I doubt you are.
Just like I doubt you are upset that the Flyers brought in Chris Pronger.
You need to develop young players, there is no doubt about that… but you have to compete with the best as well, and buy when necessary. It is NECESSARY… has been for more than a year or two.
Happy new year all…
Love the site, and DAG I’m even starting to read the write ups (as opposed to skipping straight to the comments)… Love your match reviews, much better to read from a Gooner who knows the team inside out, and one who can write well.
I’ve noticed lately there seems to be a trend for posters on this site to align themselves one way or another – PP or NN.
I love that the posters on this site are consistent. While some can occasionally become overbearing, I find I’m always drawn to their comments, because generally they are interesting and insightful.
I loved the demolition of Pompey. We can give sh*t to Wenger all we like, but at the end of the day, watching the Arse play in full flow is as good as it gets when it comes to watching sport. (Being an Aussie, watching Shane Warne bowl is the only thing that comes close. For the Americans, while I know cricket is not a game you’re familiar with, you lot are pretty refined, so reckon you’ll be able to appreciate the “Ball of the Century”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNIUjI_LINE)
So yes Stag, while winning trophies is most important, that warm fuzzy feeling from watching Arsenal when they play well is something that uplifts me for days on end. And for that reason alone, I will always be Pro-Wenger.
Thanks Rocka – and thank you everyone.
Here’s to a good and productive new year.
we’ve been playing pretty for years Rocka, and we don’t “play well” or that warm-fuzzy filling style… when we play Chelsea or United, because we aren’t good enough.
But hey, we can stomp Pompey.
;)
YAMA is the God of Death in Hindu Mythology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama_%28Hinduism%29
Well that’s interesting, considering Arsenal have never “died”, i.e. been relegated. Perhaps it means we bring death to any team that crosses our path.
The way I see it, YAMA brought about the death of AA. ;)
Good to know that. Hopefully, Arsenal can put oppositions to the sword everytime they play, the way Yama does.
Is Yama inferior to Shiva and Vishnu?
Yes. I am no expert on this, but the way I see it there is multi-tier system of Gods in Hinduism.
Vishnu (creator), Brahma (operator) and Shiva (destroyer) are at the top most level.
The next level contains Gods for each function – Yama (death), Indra (rain), Vayu (wind), etc.
Others levels have many minor Gods.
As I said, I am no expert but this is simply my understanding on the subject.
Happy New Year to all Y.A.M.A’ers!
It’s past midnight in London….Who have we bought?
Nobody!!!!
Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
Just kidding, of course ;-)
Basically I think Fred’s got it right, although I think the CB and DM could be all rolled into a single player or Pla-YaYa (Toure, type that is….) A CL cup-tied, speedy big enforcer type who might be there for our big league matches and as fill in (and back-up) for Alex Song and WG10/TV5 ought to be our #1 priority. I feel that AW wants as part of his legacy to be the guy who hybridized this sort of player (Gilberto as the prototype). With Song off to ACN, Denilson hurt and Diaby and Ramsey not aware enough defensively (without stifling their offensive games) the time, it would seem is NOW. NO UNPROTECTED SEX IN FRONT OF OUR BACK FOUR, please…. :-)
Striker would be 2nd priority and could be one for the future (but maybe not CL cup-tied) so that it might light a fire under the likes of Theo and Vela in particular and Dudu and Nasri a little. A little bit of height and some good mobility and workrate would be the ticket, maybe the next….RVP….
A new keeper….ain’t never gonna happen (but, as always, what do I know?)
AW’s nearly got the team that he wants and there seems to be a good loyalty among the current squad and we might be on the cusp of some really good stuff and everybody has signed good contract extensions, so the mentality should be: let’s stick around and keep this team together, and see what we can do…. His biggest risk from a personality/selfish-ambition perspective seems to be little Andrey, and maybe crazy Eboue, though he owes AW big time. (I confess to some worries about young Rambo and his desire for a bigger role–there’s still much to learn from the Capitan for that one….) The others who have left and find splinters in their backsides (Ade, Hleb and Flamini), as joshuad points out, should stand as big red flags for those getting too big for their (red & white) britches….
Still haven’t bought anybody and it’s getting on 1 AM in London :-(
You missed the big news?
http://youngguns.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/arsenal-complete-wellington-silva-signing/
He is a 17-year old striker, will join us only in Jan 2011 and we paid 3.4M GBP (if you believe the article).
And all this happened even before it was midnight in London.
And as stagg alluded to on the other thread, that may prove something to celebrate in 2016. ;-)
Arsenal never get old!
The future is always bright!
All in all the year is ending better than it started.
Predictions for the new year?
We will win the league IF:
We buy a backup CB, a DM and a striker.
Vermalean and Gallas can NOT play ALL the CL, league and FA cups. Plus there are also quite a few friendlies in there. Djorou is injured and Senderos is leaving, so if Wenger does not buy a CB this January it will all be on his head.
The season will also rest pivotally on the DM position. Injuries always come for every team in March and April, or even before that. We need another person in there who can tackle and keep things safe. Going into the full stretch without another solid guy in middle is like having random fun without a condom. It would soon end in tears.
The need for a striker is obvious. RvP isnt returning this season, and the way Bendtner keeps postponing his return it is a bit obvious he might have niggling injuries ALL season. We cant continue with our midget attack.
And all this while forgetting Almunia….. oh dear!
Although Denilson, I hear, is quite good at pulling out…….of tackles ;)
Nip:
Kool-aid link since we did talk about it in GDC yesterday:
http://brands.kraftfoods.com/koolaid/products.aspx
There are bunch of flavors, if you happen to be in the US and would like give it a try.
They haven’t made “Arsenal” flavor though ;)
That’d be Cherry, surely…
Though my kids love kool-aid especially in the summer, I don’t like the taste.
Here’s a reference about the metaphor….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid
C’mon, drink up….
Thanks Arm, will definitely give it a shot when I am there next.
Stag, you’re like a broken record. Every time the winter transfer window opens, you declare how we need so badly to buy top players, proven players, big players, or whatever type of player is popular to say on the day. The reality is we don’t know how much money is available to spend. The reality is we don’t have the same spending habits since moving to the new stadium. The reality is prices are inflated in January and Wenger is not willing to overpay for somebody.
Trivia, name the last team that bought someone in January that was decisive in that team winning the title that season? Pick any league. Last January, Man United trailed Liverpool by seven points and didn’t purchase a single soul. Guess who won the title? The irony is Liverpool, in typical fashion, bought quite a few players but they still lost the title race.
The only team that always buys is Liverpool and that’s because they’re idiots. They always overpay and then move them on before they have time to adapt and for a fraction of what they paid. Then Benitez bitches about needing more money. They are a perfect exmaple of why buying is not the answer. Keane, Johnson, Pennant, Mascherano, Babel, Aquilani
Sorry, I accidentally hit submit and the edit functions weren’t working. The point is the list goes on for how many players Liverpool have overpaid for like Krygiakos, Lucas, Dossena and Voronin. Buying isn’t always the answer. As for the teams above us, if we win our game in hand, there is only Chelsea above us and they will only buy now because they may not be able to in the summer.
Josh.
Perhaps YOU believe our team is good enough.
Get another beverage if you do.
I am under no illusion.
Never said we needed a BIG STAR and to spend 25 million on him, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Chelsea and United will buy, because they WANT TO WIN THE TITLE, and its WITHIN REACH.
They aren’t perfect teams, have flaws and injuries, and know there are a tough 5 months ahead.
Again, maybe you would go with the current squad, but I don’t even think Wenger is that naive.
When was the last time we won something? Time to TRY.
Arshavin came in last January, and how’s he working out?
Pretty damned well.
You think and type what you want, I’ll do the same.
I KNOW we need players in… without it, we don’t win shit… AGAIN.
Yes, how dare anyone repeatedly suggest we have significant holes that need filling or we won’t win anything?
You know what’s really been repeating itself that last few years? History. That’s the record that needs to be broken.
I do believe Wenger finally gets this. The injuries should give his ego sufficient cover to make moves without looking like he’s backtracking on the Experiment (TM).
Henri Lansbury signs a new long term contract with Arsenal
woooooooopie!
Glad we signed him.
When’s the next telecast of Murder She Wrote?
Oh, wrong Lansbury, but they’ve both done about as much for the 1st team!
;)
Thierry Henry is the EPL’s leading scorer of the decade. That is remarkable considering he didn’t play in it the last 2 1/2 seasons.
Just shows you how amazing he was here at the Arsenal. Our best player EVER.
would be a nice addition for 1 1/2 seasons, before he comes to the USA to play in MLS!
“You can get away with 5′6″ against the Portsmouth’s of the world, and you can score lots of goals against the lower rung teams, but it all changes when you play good defenses… when we bang in 3 against Chelsea or United, I’ll be over the moon.”
Like Villa?
when did Villa last win the league? or get a top 4 spot?
Nice win against Villa. No doubt.
But a midget finesse team doesn’t work against the best.
Sorry.
I don’t think Almunia did anything much yesterday, and luckily he didn’t have to…
You can get away with 5’6″ against the Portsmouth’s of the world, and you can score lots of goals against the lower rung teams, but it all changes when you play good defenses… when we bang in 3 against Chelsea or United, I’ll be over the moon.
But I love the way we played against Portsmouth… they were not in the game, and without Cesc, we dominated play, and buried a team we should have (and needed to)…
I don’t want the issues we have papered over by a few wins… and I am not interested in … “if we bring in so and so, what will it mean for … Vela / Wilshire / Ramsey / Almunia / Denilson… or fill in the blank with whomever you want”
If we are serious about winning, we need to sure up the squad.
You can guarantee the teams ABOVE us, will.
Excellent write-up DAG, but it buries my stuff on the last thread!!
Your work here on the site keeps getting better and better…but I’m sure you’ll top it in the new year. If only you could beam the devoted ones an ale or three on match day….
The photo of twisted up Alex Song cranking in the header is a great one….
You’re speaking to the birdhouse in my soul.
Um? An obscure reference I should know? :LOL:
Aw, DAG. It’s the 1990 Modern Rock hit by…They Might Be Giants.
I guess you’re reference was to the obscure movie?
;-)
No it was the group. Just couldn’t remember any titles to their songs.